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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P9 build
« on: December 19, 2018, 11:58:05 PM »
Quote from: davidt93 on December 13, 2018, 12:13:22 AM
Hi guys,

Just ordered the frame, will post another thread for build. For the mounting hardware, what size would i get for top and bottom( will be looking at 210x55 coil). Thanks in advanced

22x8mm for both, if using bearings 21,85 works just fine.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P9 build
« on: October 23, 2018, 10:40:07 PM »
Quote from: chetosmachine on October 21, 2018, 05:30:19 PM
Folks,

How would you rate the rear suspension of your P9?
I dont know if it is the design itself, or my shock not matching at all my frame, but when compression is fully open for descents, i have a feeling like a flat tire on the back, getting easily up to mid travel, but getting full travel is quite hard.
The manitou mcleod is quite simple to set, but even though i cant get a good feeling on my suspension.

How does your rear susp feel?

The linkage is progressive so after mid travel the more the shaft moves into the shock, the more force that is needed. Mine felt pretty good, small bump compliance was fine and progressiveness allowed me to hit some jumps without going full travel even without bands in the positive chamber, but at 30% sag I was having lots of pedal strikes. I changed the bushings to needle bearings which makes the shock move more freely, this allowed me to up the psi's a lot more and that helped with the pedal strikes.

I guess if you are not getting full travel and would like to you can try those bearings, just remember to increase the pressure or add some tokens or bands to the shock.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P9 build
« on: October 17, 2018, 05:46:11 PM »
Quote from: chetosmachine on October 10, 2018, 11:39:36 AM
Hey guys,

how are you doing with your P9´s?

Mine is meeting some interesting places in the alps, bikeparks included. Unfortunately my tires are not up to the task when they have to deal against sharp rocks, so next season I'll put aggresive reinforced threads instead of rounded, nimble and light tires. It's hard to have this bike as a 1 for all bike since it's such a pleasure to go downhill with her..... but in Switzerland, it's either a bikepark or a high level uphill to get to those spots!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/R2L22ugXekscENDH9

Bike looks nice! I haven’t ridden mine in a while, front brake malfunctioned so I’m waiting for the spares to fix them, will post some pics once I start riding again.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P9 build
« on: October 17, 2018, 05:43:12 PM »
Quote from: theunknownmtbr on October 10, 2018, 10:50:15 PM
Is anyone running a coil shock setup?  Just curious if it bobs a lot when pedaling?

There’s a video on youtube about the norco range linkage which I belive is what the p9 is modeled after, also the p9 profile is uploded into the linkage software db so you can see the actual values.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: My Ican P9 build
« on: October 17, 2018, 05:22:05 PM »
Hot build man!

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29+ & 27+ / Re: P8/P9 Build Using Existing Parts
« on: September 21, 2018, 07:42:44 PM »
As emu26 pointed out, as well as riderczech's on the P9 thread, the bb is ridiculously low. With 2.8's and 30% sag I hit stuff so only expect the problem to be worse with 2.4's, some guys even use 165 cranks to get a bit more clearance, now as to rideability I'd say it's probably not worth it since you'll be more worried to not get pedal strikes than having fun.

About the fork in the P8 I'm not sure how low it's bb is and the 150mm would rise the frame yes, but the P8 is designed for a fork having 100mm if I recall correctly, that means using a 150mm is possible but conferring your safety to using a frame out of its design specs is not the greatest, it can happen that the front part of top of the frame gets ripped apart in a landing.

As for the size I'm not really sure, you should measure your bike and have a look at the dimensions for the frame you choose.

If you want my opinion I'd say buy the frame, sell the bike you have and use the money to get the parts you want, bear in mind that with this bike it would be either a 27.5+ or a 29 build. I think my p9 was a great buy, the only issue are the pedal strikes but we get stability/antisquat/progression so like everything is a compromise, here's a link to the linkage review of the norco range which you'll notice looks awfully similar (if you want to see for yourself ICAN uploaded the P8 and P9 models for the linkage simulation):


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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P9 build
« on: June 23, 2018, 11:15:28 PM »
I think that it is more a matter of preference, 125mm of travel fits me well enough (plus you can always stick more of the dropper out of the post) but I can see the benefit of longer travels with larger legs.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P9 build
« on: June 18, 2018, 09:59:05 PM »
it's an M, have a look at the ST spec in the geo, you can add the dropper size to that and know if it's in the ballpark of the length you need

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P9 build
« on: June 03, 2018, 07:08:25 PM »
Hey guys first of all I'm pretty much new to the mountain bikes, I bought my first bike without checking the current trends and ended up wanting a new bike sooner than I expected, anyway I read your posts and was motivated to make my build too and well since I didn't know much about it, I heavily based upon your builds ;D

Dvo diamond 150mm boost
Dvo topaz 210x55mm 22x8mm mounting hardware
Slx groupset
Slx 30t front, sunrace m80 11-50t back
Kmc x11 118 links
27.5+ 2.8 hrII front, reckon back mounted on famous icans 40mm
Hope hubs, hope disc brakes 180mm front n back
Hope tech3 e4 brakes
Fusion-x manic dropper, raceface aeffect seat
Raceface sixc bars, 35mm funn stem, answer stein grips
Various cheap chinese parts

Some build notes:
The rear shifter cable goes great under the rear shock pivot
The dropper cable can be completely stealth.
The rear brake hose can enter through the impossible port next to the shock, I used a dremel to remove the border there such that the hose wouldn't get cut.
Chainline is not great with 50t so I changed the bb spacer from drive to non drive side.
Medium cage rear derailleur works fine for such a big rear gear.

I've tested my bike now and I still need to get it dialed a bit but I think I'm getting there, bike climbs very well (and the 30t helps a lot!), rear brake still needs more bleeding and the wheels needs less pressure they are 13 front and 15 back right now maybe 1 psi less each side will do it.

I already have some future plans:
change front chainring to 32 or 34t
change the front disc brake to 203mm
travel change to 160mm, maybe add spacer crown race to improve HA
build 29 wheels for it
paint it rad ibis hd3 blue and red style
print dvo red stickers (i have the svg files if anyone wants them)

As a final note I started this project without having any prior knowledge of how to build a bike (or wheels for that matter) and it wasn't as hard ad I thought although some mechanical experience is very recommended, I did learn a lot however, wheels were difficult to get right. Thanks for your build logs without them I wouldn't have made it.

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