So I was really keen to get one of these as a upgrade to my P9. However I was just quoted $610 shipping to South Africa. WTF? Has anyone else been hit like that?

Gentlemen

My ICAN P9 is in the market and I will buy one of these should I get it sold. Ive had it for 2.5 years and although I love it, I am quite convinced this frame quality is up there, and its just a bit more modern on all fronts.

Where did you buy from, and and can you guys please drop the email addresses of the folk you dealt with? I could go on the main website but speaking to the right person first up will save some time.

Thanks in advance!

I have a friend interested in this build. Hows it going?  I know one mtbr forum "down country" LCFS 958 looking frame cracked so I'd be interested to hear how yours is standing up ?

Quote from: Bos on January 06, 2020, 11:00:04 PM

Hi there. Awesome build.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a P9 after owning a P8 for two years but having had it stolen, I'm replacing it with big brother P9. The seatqngle on my P8 was just a bit to slack, I'm 6ft but my legs seem longer than most. The effective seat angle therefore gets pretty slack. Can you comment on that? Also, ICAN offers a 2017 RS Super delux RT3. I'm considering this. They come in Medium compression/ rebound tune. Any Idea what yours are?

Hey Bos, not too sure about the p8 angle but the p9 felt fine with me. i'm 6,1 and felt the uphill pedals were fine. I was also considering the rt3 that ican offers but decided to go for coil instead. Now that i have the super deluxe rct, i would recommend it over the rt3. The adjustable LSC is a awesome addition to the shock.  Sorry for the Late response.

Ive had about 6 months on my P9. Im seriously happy. Its not a rocket uphill, but I'm not sure many 6'' bikes are. Ive got a fairly lightweight build, with Maxxis 2.5 inch 29er rubber. That stuff at 1kg a pop will take the zip out of most bikes. However not unhappy at all.

My question is about the tune of the rear shock. I know on my Pervious bike a ICAN P8, that going from a firm to a light tune made a massive difference. the one felt harsh on rocky rooty downhills while the light just sucked it to the ground and bumps dissapeared. It was a FOX DPS though. My new shock is a RS Deluxe RT3 with Medium tune, which is what Ican reccommended, but I'm 72kg's and about 160lbs, and Im wondering if Its the shock, or the tune.

These shocks are aparently not that straightforward to do a light tune on. Unless my tuning shop doesn't know what they're talking about.

Anyone have a medium tuned Rear airshock?

What did he say, how far is it? Hard to make out exactly what they did without seeing the hardware.

Quote from: scourge on January 16, 2020, 04:39:59 PM

Some Hightower reviews i read mention how Santa Cruz tuned the shock for the new low link VPP. How do you think the performance of this bike will be affected by the lack of specialized tune? Will it feel really different than an actual Hightower?

Many, many bikes get a custom tune over the m/m baseline you'll usually get aftermarket. You end up with a couple options here.

1. Assume its exactly the same as the hightower and order a shock with a tune for a hightower right away (expensive and you have to buy a new shock)
2. Get whatever shock used/aftermarket and then play around with the options available to you until it's "good enough"
3. do #2 but get a custom tune done after you spend some time on the bike.

If you browse the SC hightower thread on MTBR many of them aren't happy with the stock tune anyway.

I agree.
I'd go option 3.
Custom tuning sounds so hocus pockus but in reality it's quite basic and as you say, most would have it done anyway.

Shocks are quite tunable these days, so you'll get there. Try start with a M/M and work your way from there.  The Hightower  might need a soft compression tune with volume spacers to get the sag right. Or a coil like you said.

I ordered a Ican P9 last week. But if this turns out good I will sell it and get this.

Hi there. Awesome build.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a P9 after owning a P8 for two years but having had it stolen, I'm replacing it with big brother P9. The seatqngle on my P8 was just a bit to slack, I'm 6ft but my legs seem longer than most. The effective seat angle therefore gets pretty slack. Can you comment on that? Also, ICAN offers a 2017 RS Super delux RT3. I'm considering this. They come in Medium compression/ rebound tune. Any Idea what yours are?

I have owned a Santacruz and love the VPP suspension.I just cant afford them anymore.

I am in the market for a more up to date and slightly longer travel bike then the ICAN P8. However, I'm not so sure I want to own the very first one.. 19'' is my size, might wait until someone puts it through its paces, theres quite a lot to get right in a month. If the last pic they have is still the 3D printed version..