I'm shopping for a new frame however, im getting overwhelmed by the # of choices. Can you help me choose..my budget is arou d 1.3k max. Basically its my do it all bike.

I have narrow down my list into
Winspace c5
Winspace SLC2.0
FL1
Winspace 1550
Bigrock Sohtea
not a chiner but a used TCR advanced SL.

or if you have other frames that can recommend. I will take a loook.

I have the same concern. I have around 1.3-1.5 USD, I'm looking for a lightweight frameset, I already have an aero bike - Elves Falath Evo. On the table I have: Ican FL1, Winspace SLC3 and Elves Vanyar. At the moment Winspace has 60% of my votes, but I'm still thinking, it's the most expensive. The SLC3 is also the lightest, probably the best build in general, but I'm not sure. FOr the SLC you can have additional 10% from some of reviewers from Youtube. I reject the bigrock, it's not looking very good for me. On same Czech forum, I found Ican, looks really nice, around 6.5 kg in size M.

Kanuto, Mariuszusd, I'm wondering if you've bought the SLC3?

SLC3 owners are there?
I would like to find some SLC3 owners who will honestly express their impressions of this frame, perhaps comparing it with others they have ridden.

Also I would love to hear comments on ride quality and comfort of this frame and any problems encountered during assembly and or riding it.

In your opinion, if you have to buy all the components, is it worth it to assemble a bike with a ‘premium’ Chinese frame (Winspace, Workswell, Yoeleo, Hong Fu, etc.), or is it better to buy a complete bike from the usual market leaders (Giant, Merida, Orbea, etc.), relying also on the added value of direct support from your local dealer?

The best alternatives with the same geometry and features would probably be the Orbea Orca OMX and the Giant TCR Pro, both of which I would have dealers close to home.

At the end of the day, with the same components, the Orca and the TCR would cost around 1500 euros more.

Frame weight is not the deciding factor, geometry, ride quality and comfort are.

Thank you in advance.

I wonder if the SLC 3.0 can be as fast as an aero bike. They compared it to the SL8 and say that it is almost as stiff as the SL8 but reviews say that It does not transfer power correctly.

I would also like to read/see the review that you mentioned, could you please post the link?

I am 55 years old and overweight, I ride slowly uphill, on climbs from 9% upwards I use 34/28 at a very low cadence, 65rpm, do you think I could benefit from using shorter cranksets?

Everyone keeps saying these alloy axles will break, but I've been using three 7075 T6 24mm alloy axle carbon cranksets and they work just fine. I haven't seen any photos from any of the more recent Riro/Racework axles breaking. If someone weighs upwards of 90kg plus are worried about snapping axles, flexy bike frames, stress on carbon wheels, etc., well that's a big boy problem. I wouldn't even be looking at weight weenie parts whatsoever.

Thank you very much.
The first link don't work.
Yes Im looking for a cheap alternative.
I don't want remove/replace the BB.
I have seen this crankset, although reading the comments of the owners there seems to be a problem with the spindle/axle that seems to be a little longer than the Shimano's, it should be necessary to install a spacer.

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005006694977287.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.ccd0b7c1X0gekp&algo_pvid=9d36a05d-1860-4aec-bbe5-580cbe157e56&algo_exp_id=9d36a05d-1860-4aec-bbe5-580cbe157e56-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2167.37%2130.99%21%21%21505.40%21232.48%21%40211b619a17337342559648472e8cc9%2112000038868915109%21sea%21IT%21817153087%21X&curPageLogUid=uT0HGqePueBK&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita#nav-specification

So I've finally completed the build of the frame I bought from @trilobites

I'm switching from a Factor o2 2018 RB with 8050 Di2 and so far after a few hundred k's the main difference is the stiffness in between both frame's rear triangle has the o2 was much more lively and felt alive when climbing out of the saddle however it looks like the power delivery is a bit better on the speeder.

I will report back after a month or two on the bike for a clear review.

Speeder SC-R48D 490
Sram AXS Rival RD/Force FD/Rival Shifters
Ali Shimano 12 Speed 11/32 cassette & Chain
Shimano R8000 52/36 crankset
Speeder 45mm wheels with Chosen Hub - 1460G with Tape.
Prologo Dimension NDR Nack / Elita One Seatpost
Fasterway 380mm aero handlebars
Kalloy Uno 100mm
Favero Assioma

I look forward to reading your review.

Please, I'd like to know what is your saddle height? I'm in trouble about the size 490 vs 520. Thank you very much.

Just finished my build using leftover parts from my 2021 Trek Checkpoint (I had a full GRX mechanical groupset and 50MM DT240 Farsports wheelset on-hand). Frameset took 3 months from payment date to get shipped and shipping itself took approximately 2 weeks to get delivered here in California. First build from the frame up, so hopefully I didn't make any egregious mistakes.

Build with a size 51 frame weighs 17.5lbs/7.9kg with Favero pedals, computer mount and bottle cages. Overall, I was impressed with the frame quality and the finishing was excellent (the BB/headset were pretty comparable to my Checkpoint's). I have 32MM GP5000s on mine which would be the max tire width I'd be comfortable running.

WOW!!!!
Please wich is your saddle height?

maybe this is the SLC 3.0
 https://www.adrisport-bik