Check out all star
https://www.allstarbicycle.com/bmc-rm01-roadmachine-01-frameset-carbon-classic-p2835404.html

not sure about quality

I am buying my daughter and new son in law gravel frames. They both have mountain bikes so these bikes will be used on road/gravel and do not need huge clearance.
https://www.lightcarbon.com/lightcarbon-addict-best-carbon-gravel-bike-frame_p16.html

What am I missing...I several misses on my wall. Any other recommendations?

Thanks in advance

Covid has caused a shipping backlog. I think that a lot of stuff was shipped on planes that are not flying. I ordered 3 items in March and only one has shown up. BTW don't complain about pay pal charges. If you have to involve pay pal it gets the Chinese vendor attention.

First thanks in advance!

I have been buying chinese branded bike frames for 10 years and have had great success except for some design issues. Started out with pedal force, then deng fu, then velo build. I read an interesting article that talked about carbon bike part manufacturers broken down into trading companies, small workshops and large manufacturers. I would like to buy a quality carbon road fork from a large manufacturer that fits 32's. I am having a ti frame build by XACD.


Peter