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Messages - Jwzard

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Bumo. Also looking for this.

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Wow! You must have some sharp seat bones ;)
And how are your wheels?

I'll admit it was quite a hard hit. I'm happy to report that my Drive 50D survived and are well and true  :D

Btw, here is the answer from the seller on ali
"I'm sorry, my friend, your purchase time is too long and has exceeded the protection period."
It ordered it on the 21 June....

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I thought that was a picture of mine.
Cracked in the exact same place under similar conditions.   
Seems to be a weak spot for that saddle

My EC90 is relegated to the smart trainer now.

Did you manage to get a new one from the seller?

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So, now I've got all parts and put the bike together. I thought I'm gonna share my experiences with you.

The choice was between Velobuild VB177 or Ican A22 but with the recent bad reviews of Velobuild here on
the forum and the fact that I got a decent discount on the A22 I decided to go with it.
I got the A22 frame and handlebar for 860 USD including shipping, the handlebar was sent from China and
import fee landed on 15 USD, so total of 875 USD. The price of VB177 would be 810 USD.
Shipping was fast and no complaints with packaging.
With my limited experience the carbon work looks good, I checked the tubes with endoscope and they were really clean,
nothing sticking out. The only wrinkle I could see is at the bb area, see picture below. I'm not worried about it.
There was a small scratch in the paint on one of the chainstays, otherwise it looked pretty good.
Not in line with other frames but at the cost it was ok. It is really sensitive tho, a flake has come
off at the rear thru axle already, I have removed and tightened the thru axle maybe 5 times.
I meassured the BB as good as I could with a digital caliper and it seemed round and at the correct spec.
So the only problems I had with it so far is the paint scratch, paint coming off and every time I reinstall
the rear wheel I have to re-center the brake caliper or the brake will rub. I guess this is due to the
thru axle hole being a bit too big and giving the wheel some play when not tightened. I try to put load on the
saddle every time I tighten it but it doesnt help. First disc brake bike so I dont know if it's anything odd or not really.
They specify that it can take max 28c on their website, I dont know why really, I could easily fit 32c in the frame,
no problems front or rear.
My 28c GP5000 TL S on Elite wheels 50D meassure 29mm, for reference.
The groupset is SRAM frankenstein, rear derailleur and crankset is RED, cassette is Force and rest is Rival parts.
I'll specify the frame weights below but the complete build came in at 7,5 kg with pedals and heavy
bottle cages (33g each... ouch). So 7,1 kg without pedals and bottle cages.

Weighed on my kitchen scale:
Seatpost: 180g
Frame with cage bolts, derailleur hanger and fd mount: 1092g
Fork uncut: 392g
Handlebar 400x110: 420g

All in all I'm satisfied, it rides really well. See the carbon saddle thread for input on the EC90 saddle tho.






















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Update on my EC90 saddle. 3rd ride, hit a pot hole at 50 km/h and the saddle cracked.


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: ZTTO XDR cassette
« on: July 08, 2022, 12:26:56 AM »
I can't speak to these road cassettes, but I bought a wide range MTB cassette specifically for the weight, and it skips in the smallest cogs. They keep offering to replace it, but at some point, what's the point? I also broke a tooth off the largest recently.

Was this recently? I've read about people having these problems a few years ago but that the quality has improved.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: ZTTO XDR cassette
« on: July 07, 2022, 01:03:27 AM »
Changed the link, does it work now?

Ye they almost seems too good, wonder if they last....

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I was heavily considering an ICAN A22 prior to purchasing my VB-R-168 however there were a couple of things that put me off:

- On ICAN's site it states that they recommend an 25c/28c tyre however when I asked them more details on this they said a 28c would not fit and a 25c is the max size. I have 24mm internal rims (Farsports Gravel) and need to run at least a 28c tyre so this was no good

- I had a limited budget and the frame was a good few hundred euro's more than the VeloBuild

- The import and shipping costs for the ICAN were also significantly more than the VeloBuild - I think in total for a completly custom paint job on my 168 I paid around €750 inc. shipping and import, whereas the ICAN was coming out closer to €1300 for which I couldn't stretch the budget to.

Thanks for your answer. I really hope that it can take 28c because that's what it says in bold letters on their website and that's what I'm planning on running. We'll see when the frame arrives.
In my case the difference will be about 50 USD + import charge and tax on the handlebar, so total difference maybe 80 USD. They could send the frame from their EU warehouse but the handlebar is sent from China.
Let's see, i will pay my build here when done.

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I've now pulled the trigger on an A22 frame with matching handlebar. Got the rest of the components ordered as well but it'll probably be 1-2 months before the build is finished.
So far the ICAN support has been good, tho it's before purchase. I'll keep this thread updated with pictures and stats.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-177
« on: June 28, 2022, 05:15:21 AM »
I understand.

Any of you running mechanical gears with internal routing in handlebar/stem having problems with shifting?
There will obviously be some pretty sharp bends on the cable.

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Sorry if this question is answered somewhere in the thead but do anyone have the real weights of frame, fork, seatpost and handlebar?

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Lots of people here seem to have VB frames, but no one seem to have ICAN. How come? The price difference?
I compared weights on the 177 and A22 and they seem to be pretty similar.
Maybe i should get the A22 and find out if it really was a hambini special he got... I got an endoscope and could post some videos from the inside of the frame as well.
His frame was 1005 gram when they advertise as 1058, fishy?

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No, because that's not what I'm saying.  I'm saying that nobody has claimed any recently delivered frames are as good as his.  Which would be very unexpected if they really were facing all new frames to the same standards.

Well, I think it would be more likely that we would hear about it if they weren't up to those standards. But I don't know, couldn't find any ICAN thread on the forum.

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I saw the hambini video and that's partly why I asked the question. To see if anybody had any opposing opinion. Can you link to any of those forums saying their frames are not as good as the hambinis special?

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