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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: May 01, 2021, 01:09:02 PM »
Or if you want the actual part...you need to order it from a Specialized Dealer...they are not available on line....cost me $5

Rubber Boot for BB Access Port (S206500002)


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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: March 12, 2021, 12:23:42 PM »
Just to update anyone who in interested...I did finally get the frame.  Took approx. 6 weeks from day of payment to delivery.  There was some drama with USPS at the end where the postman refused to deliver it to my home and wanted me to go sign for it at the post office.  The shipping carton was severely crushed and he did not want to take responsibility.  The post office would not allow me to open and inspect the contents before signing for the parcel.  This is their policy..."no inspections allowed until you sign".  Thankfully...the frame inside was not damaged.

Everything was included...Headset, QR Seatpost Clamp, Rear Derailleur, Chain Guide and Rear Axle.  The frame was pre-routed with the plastic lines to pull both the shifter cable and rear brake hose thru the inside of the frame.

Quality looks good...they are incorrectly listing the Bottom Bracket width at 63mm...it is 73mm.  There is one minor manufacturing flaw that I will have to resolve.  One of the bearing bores (seat stay inside non-drive side horstlink) is just a couple thousands too large...so the bearing wiggles a bit...it does not fall out.  I will try some carefully placed red Permatex thread lock to see if that solves the problem.  As far as a warranty claim goes...AWST Cycling Tatics is still not showing any available product on their AliExpress store...so it remains to be determined if they are no longer selling under that name.  I did some more digging and I think they may be AllStar Bicycle.  The other 11 bearings fit tight.  They ship the frame with metal shielded bearings...so I am swapping them for ones with rubber seals so I can clean an re-grease when needed. 

Frame Weight "M":
Frame (with just the Derailleur Hanger attached) = 1,920 grams
Chain Guide = 49 grams
Headset Bearings (excluding that metal expansion plug) = 76 grams
QR Seatpost Clamp = 59 grams
Rear Axle = 44 grams
Total = 2,148 grams 8)


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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: February 27, 2021, 04:04:30 PM »
Hi spth7ch & Hugo...you are probably not getting answers from the AliExpress sellers because the Chinese New Year holiday which officially started on 2/12/21 essentially closes down all factory production for the month of February.  Factory production ceases a week before that official date.  Although March 1st is just around the corner...the factories face many more challenges than I think...we on the forum realize.  I will post a link to this article explaining the challenges and they are eye opening to say the least.  Apparently, many trained workers do not return to their factory jobs after the holiday...leaving the factory to hire and re-train replacements.  Which would tell me that quality control may suffer on CF frames being produced during the month of March (and maybe beyond?)...this is not fact for any of the sellers we are discussing...just my own cautious belief based on what I am reading...you can decide for yourselves.

Here is the link to the article with a couple excerpts below:
https://www.chinaimportal.com/blog/chinese-new-year-impacts-import-business/

"While the official holiday is only lasting for roughly 5 working days, plus two weekends, most workers remain in their home provinces for an extra week or two. This explains why most suppliers are not back in business until two, sometimes even three, weeks after the Chinese New Years’ Eve.  You will have a hard time getting in contact with any company representatives, including the salespeople, on CNY eve and the following days."

"Finding, and training, a new batch of workers provides new challenges of its own. Skilled workers are, to a certain degree, replaced by rookies. This is one, of two reasons, why the risk of quality issues is at its peak right after the end of the Chinese New Year. Every trade takes its own time to master."

I was lucky enough to get my order in with AWST Cycling Tatics thru AliExpress back in Jan before everything started to shut down.  My frame has arrived in the U.S. (one week ago) as per the USPS tracking...but has not been delivered yet. I am assuming it is being held for customs inspections.  Interesting enough...when Hugo mentioned that "AWST no longer has the frame"...I went and checked.  Their store on AliExpress has no frames, wheels or any product available at all.  Does this mean they went out of business?...or are they just pulling the products because they know there will be nobody available during the holidays to answer buyer questions or process orders.  We have yet to see and I will let all of you know if I ever get the frame or not.

Let me close with my AirWolf experience.  Before I ordered thru AWST...I started asking AirWolf (who is also "YaoFlying") about the stumpy clone.  Asked if they had a medium in stock and could they ship it out by a certain date at the end of January 2021.  They responded they could meet those requirements and I just needed to place my order and pay for the frame.  I waited 1 day and just asked a follow up question regarding the timing of shipping it out before the CNY and the response I received was "we don't have Medium frames...only Large...we will not be producing them until next month.  If you place your order now...you will be first to get one once Medium's are finished"  I said to myself "next month" would be February...won't everything be closed down for the holiday?  Then a day after we had this conversation...they raised the price of the frame from $780 to $856...so I backed away from AirWolf.  Take that for what you will...I was a little dubious about their business practices.  I know others have purchased frames from them (they have a presence on EBAY, Amazon and AliExpress) and have been happy with them.



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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: February 25, 2021, 01:36:30 PM »
Hi Bos...I think you are looking for the "effective seat angle" which wouldn't be 65 degrees.

If Mousey took a straight edge or a level and lined it up from the center of the bottom bracket to the seat mount...and then put his angle finder on that straight edge...you would get the effective seat angle.

Edit - seat would need to be at the normal riding position...not the slammed down dropper post position.


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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: February 09, 2021, 06:17:36 PM »
For those looking to add an aluminum rivet nut to their carbon frame...check out this video

Some tips about treating the rivet nut prior to install and using epoxy adhesive as an insulating layer to prevent galvanic corrosion between the aluminum and carbon.



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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: February 02, 2021, 08:58:11 PM »
Hi Thrill...the bike looks great!  I ordered mine on 1/17 (from AWST Cycling) and just got the tracking # on 1/31...so now the waiting game begins...lol.  Did they include the rubber plug or "boot" that fits in that large cable/hose access opening behind the bottom bracket shell?  I am looking on line and can't seem to find it for sale anywhere.  I figured that would be a part that would need to be replaced at one time or another during the bike's lifetime...but can't find it...maybe I am using the wrong description to search in google.

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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: January 12, 2021, 10:31:48 AM »
Thanks Thrill!...Airwolf is telling me the 2193 grams is just for the frame, rear derailleur and seat post clamp.  My max cutoff weight for this project is 2280grams...so approx. 5lbs...I am shooting for a 24"ish" lbs (24.25-24.80 lbs) finished build weight.  Looks like the Stumpy clone is right near the max...but within my spec.  Thanks again for your help!

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29er / Re: Stumpjumper clone
« on: January 11, 2021, 01:15:42 PM »
Hi Thrill21...can you post the weight of the frame you received (please provide size)...with the rear axle, Headset Bearings, Rear Derailleur Hanger, Chain guide, seatpost clamp?  I started an open dialog...asking questions with one of the sellers on AliExpress (AirWolf)...and wanted to get an actual weight comparison from someone who has the frame in hand.  They list it as 2295 (+/-30gr) in "Medium" frame and 2193 grams "for size M" in the same listing.

Also take note for anyone else interested in this frame...the price as of Sunday (1/10/21) has jumped up to $853 + $48.42 shipping to U.S. = $901.42.  So Thrill21 and swuw231 got a decent deal at $770 + shipping.

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