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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 23, 2021, 04:21:12 AM »
1 question to those who have already assembled.
The saddle elevation on the handlebars is extreme due to the negative stem. How are you coping with it? Otherwise it was 9 cm, with a spacer I am 15. I also don't want to undercut that extreme.

2nd question .. do you have a disc in between or was that how it was?   


I think the 3.5cm of spacers that the frame comes with are about enough for the steerer safety - if you need more, it may be that the frame is too small, or that the frame's geometry is not good for you/your needs. For instance, I ordered a 56cm (182cm), which would have been aggressive but still "friendly",  but I received a 54cm by mistake, which is fine but with a 2cm shorter head tube making it much more aggressive.

About the disc, it doesn't look like it belongs there. What's the purpose of it?

Assembly from the bottom-up: fork, fork race, bottom bearing, head tube, top bearing, compression ring, headset cover, (spacers), handlebar. Obvs the expander plug goes in the fork steerer  ;)


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 05, 2021, 11:49:48 AM »

When ordering mine, I thought about making it red, but after seeing other frames on the custom paint page I realised the name red chameleon is completely misleading. Even if this is different from the purple chameleon, this one looks like an aubergine purple/burgundy. I think it looks good, but yeah, it does not look red.

I think is like this one http://www.velobuildmall.com/products/vb-r-086-chameleon-redurple-look-carbon-bike-frame-aero-road

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 01, 2021, 03:26:57 AM »
Hey guys, quick update on my build, which I hope might help who still need to start:

After managing the internal routing, I realised that I couldn't eliminate the headset play without locking the steering. After quite a few trials, I realised that the problem could be that the compression ring that sits above the top bearing, is sitting too low for the dust cover to compress it down once the top cap is tightened, which result in the dust cover pushing on the frame instead of the headset (as it has downward lip), while pulling up the fork excessively. As I put some cardboard/plastic strips on top of the compression ring as spacers (didn't have nothing better on hand), it seems fine, although some paint paid the price while figuring this out.

Obvs is not a solution but I intend to redo the wiring in a few weeks, once I remove the spacers and re-cut the fork, so i'll fix all that at once with some spacer-half-ring or something. Maybe a 1-2mm extra height in the top bearing could do, need to do some research on that. If anyone has ideas, fire away ;D

Hope it helps if anyone has/will have the same issue ;)


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Same boat here.  2 weeks behind.  I even asked for a realistic ship date, understanding they might be busier than usual.
Also, my status still shows as "Awaiting Payment" which is a bit annoying.

Could anyone chime in if Chris actually sends you a notification once it is shipped, or do you just get a courier notification one day?

Yeah VB lately are being funny about deadlines, which wasn't the case when I ordered my 099 at the end of October as I got it the first week of December. I guess they are working with a different manufacturer/supplier which may be running behind, the 168 being a really popular design from how many frames they sold. Mine was supposed to be shipped by the end of March, but got shipped last week. Savage lol

In autumn last year I got an email notification of shipment, while last week they texted on skype the tracking number but no other notifications whatsoever. I guess texting them and ask is the better way

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What kind of weights are your guys’ bikes coming in at? The 168 with mid level groupset is probably in the 18 lbs category right?

My 54cm vbr099 was 8.30kg, with no pedal and bottle cages. The 168, 54cm and weighting at 1130g just the frame, with full Ultegra 8020 which I moved from a frame to the other, once finished I suspect won't be too far off the vbr099.
 
I must admit that I have a pair of Fulcrum 400 DB which are definitely on the heavy side at 1690g.

Would be interesting to see the difference in weight if anyone has a 54cm not painted  ;D 

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Try measuring as a straight line parallel to the ground to the seatpost. 

Hi, yes I did that looking at the geometry table, although from the pic it does look like I measured the top tube and non the effective. Also the head tube and seat tube measure like a 54cm, 13cm and 47.5cm respectively, and not 15cm and 49.6cm.

I'm glad I'm in between sizes and was originally undecided between the two, so as much it is not ideal, it's okay, but it shows lack of precision while having waited that long.

I couldn't find the answer to this here. Does anyone know why some of the 168 handlebars are now coming with external bolts/screws? Is the wedge design not good? That's what I have and so far it's been ok.

Back in mid February, when I asked for a replacement, they suggested a two bolt system: looks like they moved completely to this system since May, not sure for what reason, but it looks solid. Maybe a bit soft, as the one I had on the 099. Surely not looking as sharp with those bolts (which I'll black out), but I remember the vbr099 handlebar expander being really heavy. For comparison sake, what's the weight of that handlebar+plug?

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While building it seemed on the small side for a 56cm frame, so i measured it: I believe it's a 54cm  :o seriously though..

Gonna ask for a confirmation, but if it's a 56cm the geometry is completely off.



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Have been waiting basically 5 months for my 099 replacement, but finally I received the 168 this am. With EMS HK, it took 3 days to London from when it appeared on the tracking and no extra VAT/duties. ;D

First impressions are quite good overall: aside few imperfections on the paint, it seems that it shipped with all the pieces. One thing I noticed straight away though, the bar's drops have a slight odd inward curve, see pic. Did anyone notice it? (400/100 with screws)

Weight painted:
56cm frame 1130g**
uncut fork 428g
axles 80g
bearings 63g
headset, no spacers 38g
fork plug 59g
400/100 bar 311g
seatpost with bolts 235g


EDIT: the frame was supposed to be a 56cm, but it turned out to be a 54**


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Chris just informed me that DPD is not available for shipping to the UK since mid june, and therefore EMS will be used.
Does anyone have experience with it, in terms of shipping time and duties+vat?

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In other news, it seems that VB bumped their shipping costs. It was $80 and now it is $112 for US, and from $64 or something to $95 to my country. That's pretty steep.

I noticed VAT collection also in Alix at checkout. (for IT and UK); so as EMS ships without pre-paid duties, it may be that they are now included, hence the increased cost. To be confirmed though

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Anyone else waiting for the frame to be shipped as it is still waiting for the handlebar? Got any update?

My frame (56cm 40-42/100) was supposed to be painted and shipped by the end of March, then April, then May, then it got delayed 'for the handlebars', so it was June, and then today I've been told the painting shop used the wrong color, so should be ready next week. I mean, what else is there to add

I did have issues with my FD and RD, which didn't appear during my short daily commutes. I had trouble shifting into my large chainring, and my four larger cogs had issues. Is it normal to require a tune up so early on or did I do something fundamentally wrong? I'm guessing that it's too early for cable stretching so perhaps I did not tie the fasteners for the cables sufficiently and they've slipped ever so slightly?

It may be that the internal routing is settling down, assuming it was fine when assembled, and so cables tension (if mechanical) may change slightly, requiring a tune up. if it's hard to get on larger cogs/chainrings, it might be that the cables have too much slack. Hope it helps

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We'll see, I do hope that'll be the last delay.

Does anyone know of other websites/companies where the vbr168 is sold, even under other name, in a similar fashion of the vbr099/Workswell WCB-R-268 Disc / Tantan ttx21?


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Congrats! Lucky you :). It's weird though, I ordered mine on April 17th (so almost two weeks before you did) also with 420/100 bars and mine is not shipped yet....  :o. It's good to hear that they are shipping orders though!

I'm reading on other forums that people that ordered later got the frame shipped earlier for some reason, bit all over the place. As Chris originally put it, mine was meant to be ready by the end of March and delayed ever since, which is frankly ridicolous. Who knows what they're up to, but for sure I'll watch myself from recommending Velobuild for customer service, aside from Chris being overall responsive  ;D

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Anybody who heard from Chris?

I asked him on saturday whether the frame was going to be shipped this week (as it has been 'in the painting shop' since the 6th of May :-X) he replied today  'yes ,we can send out this week'

Going for the 17th week of waiting for a replacement, seriously overdoing it now    >:(

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Does anyone have an update from Chris on their frame?
Mine was supposed to be ready this week, but it seems like there'll be more delays as I didn't receive an update

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