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The comments about Chinese business culture is interesting. That said, I think that it's equally fair that the ones on the receiving end of no updates or, worse yet, false updates are also offended. Trying to save face in these kinds of scenarios by making patently false statements completely backfires as all you've actually gained is a bad reputation.

Patience is a fine option when you're originally told 30-45 days. Since it's coming from overseas that does seem reasonable. When you approach the 90+ day range with repeated +3 day excuses with statements like, "your frame is ready" patience runs thin.

I will give them credit for one thing. Their social media presence, Youtube videos, and pricing strategy did lure me to believe that they would be a tighter outfit than some of the other brands in the region.

Let's see how this all plays out.   

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I hear you Adrian. I just don't understand why they feel the need to continue with the outright lies about expected delivery dates.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree with you, their updates seem to be pure fabrications for the sake of covering for delays that are unwilling to reveal. I find it unbelievable that they make a statement of "shipped in 3 days", but then fail again to ship or follow-on with another delay/excuse.

I'm leaning towards starting my paypal request for refund at this point. They are doing a piss poor job with developing confidence in their sales process and customer service. Thanks again.

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Finally! After about 6 months of planning and waiting, today I finally got to take my R11 for a short spin. Feels great! Still waiting for a di2 cable, a grommet for the RD cable exit, and some flatmount bolts before I can tape the handlebars and go on a longer ride. In the meantime, here's my full build spec. (Most of these parts were ordered in Dec 2020.)

I really wanted to try Di2 (a 900 CHF upgrade over plain 105 in my case), but I set a goal of minimizing the budget, so it's mostly 105 spec otherwise. Notably, cranks were unavailable, so I decided to try the CVR Hardrock ones. One worry is that the ZTTO thread together BB is 94mm wide from bearing seal to bearing seal (a Shimano BB86 BB is 92mm, and a BSA68 one is 90mm). This means there's about 5mm of the crank's spline interface that's not mated to the spindle, because the latter is too short. The bolts on the NDS crank do tighten onto the spindle, so I'm hoping it's ok.

The other gotcha was that the 2021 frame does not have a mounting hole for the Di2 RS910 junction in the downtube, unlike the 2020 one shown in the photos. I had to improvise a bit with my cable lengths, and ended up wedging my WU111 (BT junction) in the handlebars...  ::)  Otherwise, I'm happy with Yoeleo: it took exactly 3 months from my order on Dec 23 to shipment on Mar 23, and another 2 weeks to Switzerland using EMS Express. (I paid with Transferwise, btw -- the wire transfer took only a day to arrive.)

Uncut, the seatpost is 390mm, which means the BB center to saddle rail ranges from 655mm - 790mm (minimum insertion: 100mm, max insertion into frame: 235mm, which is 255mm above center of BB). My saddle height is about 700mm and my saddle has a stack height of 50mm, so I ended up shortening the seatpost to 350mm to avoid bottoming out.

The first section details everything that came in the box with the frame.

Ready to ride, the bike weighs 8.4kg and the total cost (including all taxes, shipping etc) was a bit under 3300 CHF.

Happy to answer questions! I'll definitely follow up once I get some more serious kms on the bike -- super excited!

CHASSIS & COCKPIT (YOELEO)(2180g, 975 CHF incl shipping & tax)Weight (g)
frame54cm, candy red; weight incl grommets & FD hanger900https://www.yoeleobike.com/products/carbon-disc-brake-road-bike-frame-r11
forkincluding thru bolt nut362
handlebar400/100382
thru axles120.5mm M12*P1.5 L10 / 166L*M12(P1.5)-16L84.5
rear dropout + RD hanger(came with an extra)17
headset67
expander59
spacers86
computer mount
seatpost139.4
seatpost head hw(for both 7x7 and 7x9 saddles)66
seatpost wedge17
seatpost gasket
CHASSIS (MISC)(ca. 290g, 100 CHF)
headset micro-spacers1.5mm (Micro-Spacer for Integrated Headsets)https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001175466366.html
handlebar tapeLizard Skins DSP V2 3.2mm83
saddle149https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32944721682.html
bottle cages252https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32888832950.html
bottle cage boltsM5x15https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000599017123.html
foam lining rear brake hosecapgo ol noise protection3
DRIVETRAIN & BRAKING(1372g, 1240 CHF)
briftersST-R785520
calipersBR-R7070front (incl flatmount 140/160 adapter)125
BR-R7070rear107
brake padsL02A34
hose connecting bolt for calipersY8JA980104https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32719097563.html
hoseSM-BH9055
olive + insertsSM-BH904
brake caliper bolts rearY8N20801033mm for 20mm chainstay12
brake caliper bolts frontincl with brakes7
front derailleurFD-R8050129
rear derailleurRD-R8050-GS250
Di2 junction boxes + BT/antEW-RS9107
SM-JC414
EW-WU1113
Di2 battery + charger + cableBT-DN11054
SM-BCR2,Y-7FJ000200
Di2 cablesEW-JC13012
EW-SD501000, 750, 650, 350, 500 mm28
Di2 Wire Holders7
Di2 RD cable hole grommetSM-GM02oval 7x8mm
Di2 Seatpost Battery MountDIY using foam & tape10
CRANK & PEDALS(1367g, 186 CHF)
bottom bracketZTTO BB86-2497https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33021799492.html
crankszrace hardrock170mm, 50-34722https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000006338700.html
chainkmc x11el118 links, shortened to 109237.01
pedalsPD-R550311
WHEELS(3167g, 645 CHF)
wheelsetDT Swiss ER 1600 SPLINE DB 2320-6221686https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/dt-swiss-er-1600-spline-db-23mm-wheelset-662528
tubeless valvesdeemount40mm, alloy, black9https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32989510427.html
tiresgp5000 tl32mm (max: 32mm) -- WAM: 30mm (at 4 bar)761
cassetteSunRace CSRX111-32314.5
rotorsSM-RT800140mm back113
rotorsSM-RT800160mm front132
sealant + air :-)151

You said that it took nearly 3 months from order to delivery confirmation. Can you elaborate please. I am going on over 3 months and all I get are new excuses as to why it hasn't shipped yet. It seems unbelievable to me that each time I ask for a status update it's a new excuse or delay after they already told me that it would only be another 3 days or two weeks, even after they tell me the frame is finished and ready.

Thanks.

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