Quote from: silk_91 on November 20, 2021, 01:23:09 PM
With 4 ,,cables" or only 2 meaning wireless group?
I am planning with Shimano 105, not sure if I should go for the fully hidden installation.

Apologies for delayed response - the integrated build was wireless, so just the 2 hydraulic cables running through the handlebar. Fully integrated makes for a really clean look. The handlebar, headset, spacers, and frame are designed to also accept 4 cables.

In my mind, the larger concern with a fully integrated handlebar is that you have to guess at the perfect reach dimension (and width as well, I suppose) sight-unseen on an also unseen frame. So this path may be best suited for folks that are: a) habitually lucky, b) happen to have measurements perfectly dialed, or c) are willing to accept that the first handlebar may not work perfectly.

Quote from: silk_91 on November 15, 2021, 09:05:02 AM
Did anybody use their aero handlebar CHB1036 and guide through 4 lines? Is it easy/doable?

I didn't end up building this way, but it's possible to route 2 cables through each set of holes on the handlebar and 4 cables through the headset spacers.

Quote from: FritsK on November 15, 2021, 04:14:54 PM
Nice looking bike. Which stem did you use?
I'm planning to order one frame in the next (few) week(s). I'm looking for a stem with internal cable routing, 80mm long, +6 or 0 degree stem. Any tips?

Not the OP, but the handlebar was designed to be compatible with the ACR system by FSA and Vision. That particular stem appears to be a SMR version from Vision - https://shop.visiontechusa.com/en/stems/road-gravel/vision-stem-ns-smr.

That looks like the wrong clamp.

My seatpost clamps were just under 16mm.

Quote from: silk_91 on November 01, 2021, 03:32:22 AM
Does anybody know if I can use their cockpit with external routing instead of internal?
http://www.carbonda.com/accessory/handlebar/109.html
Do I need different headset or anything from aftermarket?
Thanks

You can certainly choose not to feed cables through the handlebars - just tape them to the bars. Or I suppose you could feed them into the holes marked 16.2*12 and out the holes marked 16*8.5.

Then feed the cables into the holes in either side or top of the frame. No changes to headset or anything aftermarket required.

I've built two of these - one with a flat handlebar & necessarily external cable routing - and one with Carbonda's handlebar and internal cable routing. No regrets with either.

Quote from: Parkerross on September 12, 2021, 04:26:00 AM
Do the FSA and carbonda spacers play nice together?

They do fit together, but the seams run in different places. So you could assemble them a bit like Legos.

Mine were 1.5.

Quote from: Parkerross on September 04, 2021, 10:45:40 PM
What size rotors is the 1056 set up for? Thanks

I thought this was more of a question of calipers than bike frame? I used an ultegra caliper set that was configured for 160 front and 140 rear - and I needed a spacer to use the rear 140 caliper with a 160 rotor. Similarly, I used SRAM calipers that were designed for 160 rotors and they worked without a spacer.

Definitely room for two brake cables down the spacers - no need to send any through the expansion/compression plug. That's how I routed mine.

Quote from: Bonpensiero on August 21, 2021, 01:15:50 PM
35mm fits.

Nice! Thanks for checking that! I didn't want to spend $100-150 on another set of tires only to find they didn't fit.

Sorry, no experience with ICAN or Carbonda wheelsets - I went with Light Bicycle and am pleased.

Not the OP, but - while 32mm is the manufacturer's spec, there is a perhaps a couple mm more room. The engineering drawing for the fork shows a 40mm radius, and that's what I measure as well. For the frame, I didn't see a similar dimension - I measure 36-37mm (seat stays are at an angle, of course, so also depends how much higher the wider tire sits...).

I don't have anything larger than a 32mm road tire - and that does certainly fit with comfortable clearance.

I wonder if it's possible to squeeze a 700x35 on, if someone has one handy.

Quote from: jever98 on August 19, 2021, 03:48:40 PM
I was wondering what frame and fork weights people have been getting. Thanks for any info.

My matte black frames in size M were 1050 and 1062g. Cut fork was 463g.

Quote from: Aesch on August 11, 2021, 07:28:26 AM
It could well be (a form of) plastic. The compression needed to preload the bearings is not much.

The supplied compression plug is aluminum. Very sturdy and (relatively) very heavy. Agree that these don't need a lot of tension & over torqueing can make the headset bearings less effective.

Agree on the internal cable routing. I don't hear any rubbing (or rattling).

Handlebar bolts are fore/aft. The Geometry tab has the dimensions (i.e., M5 bolts on 44mm spacing). There is not a cover per se that can detach to help with cable routing (at least mine didn't have a removable cover), these bolts are just threaded into the handlebar.

Cobbled together a second, commuter version, from a mish mash of parts tonight. I'm done bike building for a while.

Also, weird that the preview is upside down...

Quote from: jstrawks on August 08, 2021, 11:49:06 AM
How did you specify your bar/stem? What were the options you were offered?

The Handlebar CHB1036 comes in these sizes (length*width in mm): 100*400/110*420/120*420/130*440

The link is here: http://www.carbonda.com/accessory/handlebar/109.html

Quote from: jstrawks on August 08, 2021, 11:49:06 AMWhat is this "fishing kit"?

Apologies for my imprecision, "internal routing cable tool" is a better key search term. As per usual, Park makes one and a dozen other brands sell similar for 1/4 the price.

Quote from: jstrawks on August 08, 2021, 11:49:06 AMThe Carbonda spacers and the FSA spacers all detach in the middle?

Yes - Carbonda horizontally (looking at spacer from the side, there is a vertical line up the middle), FSA diagonally (i.e., asymmetrically). I think the FSA fit together better and were well worth the cost to upgrade.

Quote from: jstrawks on August 08, 2021, 11:49:06 AMWould you have chosen BSA68 over the pressfit if you had the option?

When I ordered, BSA wasn't available in quantity of 1 (implying I had to place a larger, B2B, order...) - and I would have taken that over the PF as additional insurance against creaking.

Quote from: Aesch on August 08, 2021, 12:07:42 PM
What size is it? And what depth are the wheels?

This was a size M & rims are 56mm depth. 31mm tires in this picture - & they clear with no problem (specified max width is 32mm).

Yes, that's Carbonda's integrated handlebar. It does make for a bit of a guessing game to get reach and width both correct on a new frame - but in my case, it happened to work. Only (extremely minor) quibble is that the top cap is a different matte black color than the frame/fork/seatpost/handlebars.

The bike ships with 1x 10mm and 2x 5mm spacers. Fortunately, the FSA ACR 10mm spacers (I'm using 5 here - will dial in exact fit later) are back in stock in their store for $4/each. https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/acr-stem-spacer These were pretty scarce for a few months.

Routing hydraulics was fine. I used a fishing kit & electrical tape. If not for the kit, it probably would have been Very Hard as the hose is not very flexible and there are a couple tight turns.

As an aside - it's tough to keep slack on these hoses within the frame, but there is some play on the routing inside the handlebar to hold some slack. I presume the hose just bends horizontally within the flat section. That's great for me, since I don't want to have to recut the hose if I remove spacers & adjust height. Also the spacers all detach in the middle meaning you don't have to completely disassemble everything to add/remove one or two.

I'm using the $10 headset that Carbonda sells - and it also works great. Pretty sure I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between this and a name brand version.

We didn't have any real assembly issues. The flat mounts for calipers were faced correctly & even the pressfit BB went in smoothly w/o any creaking (yet).

Overall, the frame, fork, seatpost, handlebar combination is a pretty incredible value and the ride is pretty compliant. I'm super pleased.