Who makes it?

Good question

In your head, in your head, they are cryin'
What's in your head, in your head?
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie-ie

Thanks for you inspiration sir:

Another frame cracks slowly
Rider’s pride is shaken
And the bargain caused such silence
What deal were you taking?

But you see, it’s not real, it’s not from Italy
In your shed, in your shed, decals fading
With the fake paint and the blobs
And the missed carbon jobs
In your shed, in your shed, it’s degrading

In your shed, in your shed
Chinarello, Chinarello, fake-ie-ie
What’s in your head, in your head?
Chinarello, Chinarello, fake-ie-ie-ie, oh

Doo, doo, doo-doo, doo
Check the steerer too-too, too
Doo, doo, doo-doo, doo
Hope you’ve dental insurance too

Another fork is flexing
Clearcoat peeling over
When the head tube starts protesting
You know the dream is over

It’s the same old scheme, “UCI approved” it seems
In your head, in your head, you were flying
With the fake tags and the marks
And the bargain-market sparks
In your head, in your head, you were buying

In your head, in your head
Chinarello, Chinarello, fake-ie-ie
What’s in your head, in your head?
Chinarello, Chinarello, fake-ie-ie-ie

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh
Bad paint, bad lay-up, no QC
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh
Fake decals won’t save your teeth

Another listing’s calling
“Same factory,” they’re claiming
But the carbon’s sub-standard
And the seller keeps disclaiming

Not the same old frame, just a copied famous name
In your head, in your head, you were dreaming
With the fake gloss and the lies
And the customs surprise
In your head, in your head, it was screaming

In your shed, in your shed
Chinarello, Chinarello, fake-ie-ie
What’s in your head, in your head?
Chinarello, Chinarello, fake-ie-ie-ie

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh
Buy it cheap, crash expensively
Eh-eh, oh, ya-ya
Ride the real thing, keep your jaw in one piece

I haven't watched the video (will do later today), but maybe someone can help me guestimate the weight for the built with this frame:

VRT, sizse 54 (178 tall)
XMCS wheels (1250ish)
Older 11sp ultegra Di2 with ultegra or campa rotors
ryet-style printed sadle
crank + powermeter + 52/36 rings --> to be decided (magene, with passquest wheels)

I'd like to know if 6,8-7,1 kilo is realistic

Hey yall,

i did it and bought a x68 in green.

i finally went trough all 132 pages to this frame and there are some questions occuring:

1. I want to ride 160f and 160rear rotors with a shimano Di2 brake. Is there a need for extra adapters for fork and/or frame?
2. How long did it take to order, paint and ship to Germany? Rose told me, the longest would be end of April. I this reliable?
3. Is it worth it to buy those Di2 latex covers for the cables in advance?
4. How is the fork quality now in 2026? Any issues here?
5. Got a new 116 link shimano chain sitting here, should there be more links for a 52/36 and 11-34 casette with a size 58 frame?

Thank you guys, appreciate any reply!

Quick question, what are Di2 latex covers?

My Tideace GV201:

Beek-Ubbergen? Nijmegen hier

Which size is that? 54?

First of all: Tout le monde ne parle pas français, alors évitez le stéréotype du « Français » et répondez en anglais.

Second of all: The geometry of the Dragon is very clearly a racing bike geometry following slight trends to have a higher stack to reach ratio. The wheel base is super short, as are the chain stays. You should really study up on current race bike geometries, how angles affect positions and hip angles and what constitutes a good/correct geometry. In this case the dragon is surprisingly good.

Third: If you want to try and complain about geometry, go look at the Ridley Noah Fast and see what your old-school mentality thinks of it. Even though it is extremely complex on paper to understand why the geometry is correct while looking so so so different from the "norm", once you sit on the bike and have it set up, you would understand.

Bonne chance pour tes études.

#micdrop

Me hab escrito hoy diciendo que en mi talla M, si quiero el cuadro estándar, tendría que esperar hasta marzo. Que si que tienen otro que es más ligero. Me ha mandado un vídeo en el que se ve como flexa el tubo cerca del pedalier, al presionar con los dedos, pero que esto es así, en versión ligera. Conocíais este modelo más ligero?

Si!

Every $600 clone, inspired, or homage frameset I've ridden rides nothing like their more expensive Western counterparts. I am pretty much ready to stop using these comparisons as a talking point.

Doesn't mean homages can't be good for what they are. And the pricepoint can't be denied.

Fair enough, just wondering if this is indeed a Wilier Filante inspired bike. Seems kind of random to 'clone' that bike (unlike an SL8 or Foil, which make sense given it's world wide fame, which I think does not go for Wilier).

That being said, I'm not looking to compare ridefeel completly to it's inspiration (I wouldn't do that for the X68). I'd like to know if it's a good bike on its own. While the X68 might not be the 'real deal' I can imagine it still being better dan other western/more expensive options.

Also, if not the X68 or X69, which bike would be your go-to Chinerframe (aeroish, cheapish, lightweight, fast(ish) for guys with 1400W sprints, 4000km riding a year on that bike (6000 total, with gravel and TT) with some mountain/hilly rides).
And if you had to choose between X68 and X69, based on your insights, what would you likely choose (the X68 be an exact kopie, while the X69 just looks similair)?