They just need to rid it of those lame BXT logos.

Looks like they got rid of the weird pyramid thing on the seat tube as well.

That does not have the thru axle bottom pivot, but does appear to have the updated top links and a different looking upper link.

Quote from: cybrsrce on January 07, 2022, 09:07:36 AM
We may even be able to thank Eddy for taking our feedback to the frame/mold designer to redesign the rear triangle.  I don't know who else would have given them that input.

Eddy was the most aggressive marketer so not surprised he is dealing with the most customer complaints. 

Quote from: graved1gger on January 04, 2022, 02:05:44 PM
One of the local guys just got the frame.
There is a noticeable lateral play in the lower link right out of the box.


Don't even know what say.
I mean, in total there are issues with upper linkage, lower linkage and rear triangle, lower linkage and front triangle...

Are there metal shims between the link and the frame like in the original design.  What actually presses/tensions the two sides of the link to the frame now?

start a new thread gents, we have our hands full with the AM831 in this thread 

@JJJ what is the latest update on timing for the new pivot hardware?

Thanks,
Luke

Quote from: JJJ on December 13, 2021, 07:07:02 AM
Order list

The bolts are pretty cheap now, provided those in the list commit to ordering theirs.

Please commit to your orders with a down payment to my email address indicated in the spreadsheet, and by providing your email and shipping addresses. Either put your information, including your nickname, in the PayPal message, or send me an email.

I am far from having all the contact information and down payments for those in the list. If you are no longer interested, remove yourself from the list so that we can figure out the correct price for those that remain interested.

And don't forget to order your 6703-2RS bearings to see if they fit in the recess.

Just sent down payment by the name of Luke Pardi.  Thanks again JJJ.

Quote from: Snacks on December 08, 2021, 08:46:14 AM
I was told the new rear triangle would be finished in a month and that was on Nov 4th. Asked Eddy about it last night and he said they're still working on a fix. I don't know how he can say the new frames are fine when they're still working on a fix. So I would still wouldn't purchase this frame if anyone is still considering it now. Kinda wish I had gone with a lcfs947 so I could actually have a rideable bike right now

Edit- I also joined the bolt buy, thanks for doing all this JJJ.

My bike is very ridable despite the pivot issue with the nylon spacers in place.  It is a great bike...climbs well, fits well and when I get the suspension dialed in will be more than capable going down.  I have a ripmo and still feel like this will hold the edge no matter how good I get the suspension working on this AM831 frameset, but that is a well documented strength of the Ripmo and it was reviewed better going down than the Hightower by countless sources. 

If we can get this fix via JJJ I think we will have a good v1 bike and if Eddy can get a real fix in place this still seems like a frame that would have a bunch of success.

Quote from: deucelee on December 04, 2021, 07:29:10 AM
Guys, do the L and D measurements differe from bike to bike? due to the size of the bike? j/w for my info...i haven't gotten my frame yet, it's in the mail. thx

No they should be the same, but JJJ is trying to account for potential tolerance differences that production may have yielded.

JJJ thank you for your work! I am on the list and will pick up the outer bearings to confirm spacing. Have you done so on your frame yet?

Quote from: cybrsrce on December 02, 2021, 08:36:36 AM
Avoid, meh.  Mix titanium and aluminum alloy parts all the time in industrial, aerospace, and in my personal bike stuff just out of necessity - like having problems with sheering shock bolts.  Especially with this application where the bolt would be longer and loaded but the connection to the upper link would be static thanks to the bearing arrangement.  But I agree, aluminum would work just fine.  Better bolts just makes titanium bolts for bikes with a fast turnaround, but anybody that can turn or cnc what JJJ figures out in AL would be great.

Agreed I think we would all take a working solution however we can get at this point.

I would avoid titanium for this application. It introduces a stronger metal into the mix and they may cause more issues than it solves inside the aluminum pivot. My two cents...stick with aluminum as it works just fine.

Quote from: deucelee on December 02, 2021, 05:24:17 AM
I mean, if that works well, shouldn't Haideli buy them and distribute them to all the purchasers so far?

Wishful thinking, and the time it will take for him to facilitate that, god knows. I will gladly accept the parts when they come, but for 30 bucks I will also happily pay to get this bike finished. This is by far the longest most frustrating build I have ever experienced. I am happy to be a BETA customer, but also expect the support for working out issues you could find on the factory floor i.e no real world testing needed.

Right now I am waiting on a thru axle and nut to complete my bike. Emailed Eddy 3 weeks ago about the defective axle that came with my bike and stripped out the nut. Still has yet to be shipped.

JJJ let us know if you are moving ahead with bolt creation after your initial testing. I would happily buy in.