Quote from: mefunaki on June 10, 2026, 01:56:35 AM
I use https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009271719170.html and it works well and build quality is decent. RRSKIT

I have this one as well and found that it clicks on securely/well. Gets thumbs up from me

Quote from: poyo on September 03, 2025, 06:47:22 AM
I have the 8170 shifter, so I think it should fit.

I have 8170 and it does fit and it does make using the button MUCH easier to use

I've been running Stone chain rings on my 2x gravel bike and they've been spot on. No probs at all. Given the amount of grit and ick they've had to contend with I'm quite surprised how well they're lasting too.

Quote from: pushpush on April 21, 2024, 09:40:49 AM
I've had good luck with the generic clear helicopter tape for quick dirty protection.

If you want a fitted kit to really wrap a frame and make it pretty, I would spend real money for a kit that has been meticulously designed for your frame. The difference between a frame specific wrap kit and a generic one is huge.

+1 for buying Helicopter tape, trimming it to size and shape then using sprayed water and hair dryer to position it. I've got some matt stuff on a Canyon since 2012 and its still great.
I get mine from from in-country sellers through Ebay as they often say how thick the tape is (and I can be impatient).

Quote from: maza on April 23, 2024, 04:13:54 AM
For genuine Shimano chains visit your local shop. For bootleg Shimano chains go for Aliexpress.

The only chain I've ever snapped was a bootleg Shimano Ultegra. Use with caution
YMMV etc

Oh and I just remembered that there are also plugs available for almost any sized frame bolt hole https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002952659495.html

I went for the aluminium screw option on my GF-002. like these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004389231856.html
A little dab of grease on the threads just in case and they're done.
They weight next to nothing and dont come out when the bike gets washed. Recommended :-) 

Quote from: Greenred on January 24, 2024, 12:02:59 PM
@hazzer19 and others: would you expect spacers also being needed for a 46/30 chainring combo on this frame? Interestingly, velobuild said that this setup would need a longer front derailleur (?)

I know this response is not directly answering the question but thought I'd add it in case its useful to someone..
I used 48-33 and it works at the bottom limit of the standard derailleur hanger.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005163379110.html

sorry, I havent been back for a few days...
I've had a quick look but its a lot of money... The cheapest possible that i could find was about USD90. I'll be honest, i'm not keen to have to deal with all the customs paperwork. Apologies

13th Sept. Now sold through ebay

54cm Seraph climbing carbon frame in matt Black.
Frame weight only 959g including all the plastic cable fittings and helicopter tape making this one that loves to go uphill.

I bought this rim brake frameset to build up with di2, got it all prepared and the bottom bracket in and then have had to change course.
Custom clear matt helicopter tape applied to the chainstays, forks, seat stays, top tube, rear of seat tube, front of head tube, underneath downtube.
Included in sale is everything you can see in the photos, headset and expander, seatpost clamp, hanger, shimano BSA bottom bracket, rubber hole plug, front entry cable stop, rear mech cable ports for mechanical or di2.
Looking for £300.

Actual Weights;
Frame 959g
Forks 333g
Seatpost 156g
Max tyre width 25mm

stats at http://tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=359

Retailing on aliexpress for over £540 so save yourself the weeks of waiting and pick up a bargain
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32833205675.html

Will be sent by courier at whatever it will cost me (approx £12-£15 on Parcelforce last time I looked)

Thanks for replying. I had found the non series ACR stem but its out of stock in 80mm everywhere, including those sites you shared. Thats why I started thinking about whether to swap it out for something else. Although its not a "chiner" build problem I thought that it was worth asking the forum as there are a lot of people used to getting around build challenges.

I've been running an 80mm on my existing Canyon 54cm and its been ok. Not as stable as the 100mm I was running I accept, but certainly good enough. Its certainly been a reasonable trade off for the extra comfort that it brings 

Whilst building up a VBR 086 I had the chance to get a Orro Venturi which has waylaid me for a mo.. .
The Venturi uses ACR stem and came with 100mm which I need to switch out to 80mm to achieve my fit. Sadly an ACR in 80mm appears to be as common as unicorn poop in Europe for he foreseeable future.
Does anyone have any suggestions for alternative stems that might be a good swap out whilst maintaining the routing and that clean look?
Cheers!