I really appreciate your help. I still think the groupset is pretty interesting, but I don't want to swap my Ultegra just because of 3mm - the only thing was important for me. Thank you for your help.

Maybe the modular system could be used to increase the reach with some spacers, but I'm not sure

PS: I am a bit confused that I measured 132mm on my R8170 - was sure E1 is a bit longer

@Eddy_Twerckx

Can I ask to measure or compare the lever reach as accurately as possible?

I am looking for the longest possible lever for puppy paws position, and even small reach increase is critical for it. This one looks longer than Shimano r8170 or SRAM, but I'm not sure for how much longer. 4 mm is too short, but 8 mm is ok to the pull trigger

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Quote from: patliean1 on October 02, 2026, 06:10:25 PM
Question for the experts: How consequential is wheelbase length?

I had:
- Cannondale himod 56(989)
- Himod 54(980)
- Yoeleo r6 56(975.2)
- Speeder 535 size(1005)

I raced all of them, except speeder, in local mountain race the same descent 90kmh+ with turns. And I would say there's no real difference.+-10 mm stem has a much bigger perceived effect. Of course, theoretically, a longer base slightly increases stability, but you can't really feel or measure it on a bike. I would add that every time you change something on the bike, the change will seem very noticeable at first, but it's just old habits that disappear after a few days. For example, years ago I found the 36‑inch handlebar to be too narrow for me; now the distance between hoods on my bike is about 24 if not 22 cm, and I don't experience any of the problems that arose in my head during the first days of using it

Quote from: dmt4500 on August 03, 2026, 02:48:59 AM
This frame is very similar to the gravel Twitter v3 in this image.

I didn't see the gravel Twitter, I saw the road one. I can definitely say that this is a completely different machine

During the internal inspection, Sorry - forgot to take photos, so just the text:


To make it clearer - these are very very minor flaws, the mechanic said that most well-known brands have much more major issues

- Definitely not a single shape mold because the back triangle is glued on, but that's completely normal
- The main thing that the mechanic noticed is that the carbon sleeve under the bearings is not the same width everywhere - in the front part it is 1/2 smaller than in the back, but this is only noticeable visually, after assembly I did not notice anything
- In the upper tube there are two glued patches at a distance of ~5 cm from the headset - it is difficult to say why they are needed, perhaps just for better stiffness - so it might be even good


- The frame is clean inside and looks good.

- I can confirm that the frame feels good in my hands, it is stiffer than my Yoeleo R6, maybe like the Supersix Evo Hmod, or maybe better.

In general, I am very satisfied with the frame. If there is anything new, I will update the post.

Bike is ready and even did one race on it

Lightcarbon feels like much better quality, but the specific model has boxed downtube which is pretty ugly if you start to think about "aero".

Tantan x68 is well know sl8 replica.

If you prefer quality and the boxed downtube is not a problem - I would choose lcr.

Quote from: Serge_K on May 19, 2026, 03:24:49 AM
Much, much wiser choice than Ali frame. I'm yet to see anyone hating on their Speeder frame.

Thank you. The main reason for the frame - pretty interesting geometry. But the stiffness is always the question for the price range - would be interesting to check.

Ordered: Geometry looks pretty progressive for 535 frame: reach is long - 399, but stack is not too high. 0-offset is available also.

I think the same is applicable to non-fake frames: If seller (any cheap seller) would like to ignore your problem - they can easily ignore you by email. But then cannot ignore you _totally_ on ali official store

"Aero" has different meanings the days. Aero handlebar - one. Handlebar which put you in aeroposition - totally another story.

For the second one - imtos or ascent aeroo

I have a question:
Anyone knows why initial post mentioned T700/T800 carbon, but official site is Toray M40J T800 / T1100 now?

Quote from: Serge_K on May 14, 2026, 08:05:38 AM
Canning isn't shoulding.

Do you mean that the same frame from ali and not ali is not the same?

I would say that 50% of the frames are also possible to buy on ali. Spcycle, tantan, and many other

Quote from: Serge_K on May 13, 2026, 04:29:51 PM
Even Velobuild have been using EPS for years, i think unless you buy utter garbage today / very old stock of something, everything will be EPS moulded

It is hard to say. Let me give you an example: spcycle has something like a "new 2026 R066" frame called tantan R65, but it doesn't seem to have EPS. It's the same with many ali frameworks: EPS is mentioned, but it's hard to believe, but it's a pretty fresh framework.