Well, I always keep my eyes peeled + have notifications set up for specific key-words to find used gravel bikes / parts, but the thing is, people here are delusional thinking that their 10 year old bike is worth $1500. A partial GRX groupset in my market fetches $350 ~ CAD. It's not a bad price, but I always weigh between several options to get the most bang for my buck, since I'm making every dollar stretch here. That's why I browse here to find hidden gems.

My current approach is to see if I can be patient and wait to get a used disc brake frameset with wide tire clearance, then fit a hydraulic LTWOO groupset on it, as sometimes building from a used frameset can be cheaper here.

Ordered mine about a month ago with some pretty extreme geo, but not as extreme as Evil Chamois Hagar.
Should be ready to ship next week, but I have yet to receive any photos.

@Ostriker how hard was it to get the special graphics on there?

One legitime question, not trying to criticize. Why did you ask for internal routing frame if you where planning to use a standard /  redshift stem?

I also have an internal routed titanium frame and I actually regret having made it internal, but I am not sure if routing it out at the bearing cups is the way to go, as more crap is likely entering the bearing areas through the cable openings, and you still get the harder maintenance of the bearings because of the cables goung through them

how did it all go?

Which frame are you going for? Or you doing a custom build?

I checked out their store which I found a nice looking gravel frame with a squarish top tube