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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: April 05, 2023, 09:18:13 AM »
Thanks,
but I have already this group.
but I have already this group.
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Just wondering if any one have any post build issues? I'm 1480 miles in on my build. I've come across 2. front derailleur hanger has movement. feels like 2 of the 3 rivets is secure. An the water bottle cage on me down tube. bottom bolt is just spins. for the most part their secure, but if I was to have to do a trans plant to another frame wondering if i should go with another 218 or look into something new.
I'm happy with the 750 (including shipping) I spent on the frameset. For what I paid to what I got in return I feel like I broke even so far. after all its a clone. I see maybe another 9 months before one of the 2 issues become a major problem and I need to replace the frameset. so I'm looking to the community for thoughts. by that time were looking at north of 3000 miles on the frameset. i never thought of these frames as a long term item. for 1 its carbon which make it disposable, and by it being a clone and suspect carbon we don't know the actual durability.
me and my specs
groupset di2 11 speed,172.5 crank ,4iii left side power meter elite wheels 55mm juntech brakes system.
frame size xxl
dirty wt.19 lbs /8.6kg (no saddle bag no water bottles) but with computer edge 1030 garmin and garmin radar and separate tail light
std weight full load 24 lbs/ 10.88 kg (saddle bag=1.5lbs and 2 750ml water bottles)
my wt as of this post 227.9lbs/ 103.3 kg
hopefully this help. bottom of frame has a drop out port. an your junction a box should be a bar end.
ok so a quick search found this on ebay & your component set is 11spd & looks like this (pix attached)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225133006933?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&srsltid=Ad5pg_GttCHIyqlD4_l_bnmx9i8o5t_RFezjRN1xy4QHIcR79A9v3mbezZU
Here's what I suggest, based on my miserable experience routing brake & shift cables backwards through the bar
1. Start with the handlebar first (DO NO do this backwards)
2. The Di2 box will fit in the handlebar. The VBR-218 & handlebar are an exact copy of the Dogma F-12
I am actually using the original Pinarello top cap & compression plug & spacers on my bike
3. Add in the shifters & wiring first & then add in the brake cables.
(Dogma F-12 assembly)
4. Take a look at the actual F12 assemble manual here
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1949164/Pinarello-Dogma-F12-Series.html?page=5#manual
Print out the following pages from the manual
Page #5 - Torque Specs (DO NOT deviate from these specs. You will damage your frame)
Page #41 - cable routing for Di2
When in doubt check base in here & pay attention to any advice (esp Sebastian). It will save you hours of frustration
Post pix of new bike when completed
This frame does not have the access port on the downtube as in the Dogma
If you post the groupset version you are using with a link to the tech specs, someone may be able to better help you.
Shimano has moved the "brains" of the system from the box to the rear derailleur (per my understanding), so posting more info about which one you are using or planning to buy will clear up any confusion
Very nice Dogma in the pix....is that yours ?
The frame does not have a port in the downtube. Just like the current Dogma F. So you would have to get a handlebar junction box. I don’t know however if this handlebar is compatible with Shimanos bar end junction box. Maybe someone else has built this thing with Di2?ù
I was never really comfortable with the bike after the headset issues. Decided to change with either the Acr or the Superbox, decided for the Superbox because of the option running a semi integrated solution for for easier bike maintenance and travelling with the bike. The post from Liter took me over the line.
Happy with the result so far, everything sits tight.
Should be picking this up in the next 48 hours! I just need to put on a rear mount, I assumed I could bolt the sram one right to the frame like my old bike!