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https://www.winspace.cc/hyper3/?v=3a52f3c22ed6

You mean like these ? For the rear?
The braking power on the rear is really minor compared to the front brake. But by this 2:1 approach you gain much more evenly tensioned spokes and thus also the non drive side is high in tension. And the 3x cross pattern is on the drive side.
For the front 21H with 2:1 puts the 3x crossed side to the break. Also in the result you have much more even tension.
There are in fact quite some wheels for disc with 21h 2:1 , also with steel spokes.
(Just to not mix it:The  winspace front wheel shows a crossed pattern on both sides)

Yes, thank you very much for the answer

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Hey there,

I’ve noticed a growing trend where Chinese manufacturers are using radial lacing on the disc brake side, which is generally considered a no-go for many wheel builders and is prohibited by Shimano’s manual. Is this practice normal for carbon spokes? Is it safe, and have there been any reported issues with it? Even Winspace includes this design in their high-tier wheels.

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Found geometry info on their site: https://tideacebike.com/products/fm-cr068-aerodynamic-road-racing-bike-frame

But 1.100$... i better buy Bross bike for this price

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Scott Foil and TanTan x38, even though by using it i noticed that there are more differences than similarities

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Bross Zenith 2023
« on: October 31, 2023, 02:09:08 AM »
One of the bloggers that was on the even said this bike is new Cube C:68

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Bross Zenith 2023
« on: October 30, 2023, 11:22:54 AM »
I'm interested. While I don't love the fork, it's nice to finally see some new designs. The SL7 one-bike-to-rule trend is slowly fading and people want aero again. Would make for some interesting YouTube content if they can figure out their western world distribution.

-Stiff
-Comfortable
-Affordable

Pick two, but you can't have all three

I think they mostly make it for China, haven't seen any abroad dealers, but it's not.a problem since there are many forwarder companies who can send you the bike.
It's already available on taobao:https://m.tb.cn/h.57hgVjR?tk=vhC8WX3fQ3w

BTW, I  felt in love with this chameleon color, seems to resemble Foil RC20:


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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Bross Zenith 2023
« on: October 30, 2023, 06:36:40 AM »
I'm looking to buy this bike, recently they announced it with starting price of ~2000$ for 105 12 speed mechanical groupset, extremely good price for such beautiful looking frame



Also more info here: https://www.biketo.com/product/52274.html?all=1


The weight is about 1300g for standard and 1100g for Plume (more expensive version), plus they have option for lighter and thinner fork (that is lighter for about 80 grams):


There are seatpost options for 0 and 15mm offset:




On weightweenies forum one folks said that it's very stiff and harsh compared to SL8:  https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=174075

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« on: September 11, 2023, 11:39:03 PM »
Thank you. That helps a lot. I have a 31mm wide wheelset on order that I have high hopes for and I wanted to make sure it fits the frame.
My frame has not been shipped yet. LTWOO er9 is currently sold out in the official LTWOO store. I don’t really want to order anywhere else.

BTW, TanTan claimed on instagram that they tested this frame with 32c tyres .

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« on: September 11, 2023, 01:53:28 PM »
Sure, it's 44mm

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« on: September 11, 2023, 01:28:59 PM »
Hey there!
Could you measure the actual clearance in millimeters between the chainstays where the tire sits?
I wonder if the frame will clear 31mm wide rims fine with 28c to 30c tires. Patrick mentionned that the manufacturer overstated the tire clearance with 32c.

Thx!

I attached some photos of the clearance measurement.

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How did you go about organizing this with TanTan.  I am thinking of buying a frame from them and don't have a particular hurry and don't want to pay their huge shipping fee.

Hey, sorry didn't see your message earlier, TanTan actually had nothing to do with my parcel lost since i forwarded it to different warehouses, they delivered the package to the first warehouse without any problems.

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Hey patliean1,. sorry for too much question, but can you help me understand, I'm really value your opinion, but it's a little bit mystery for me because of language barrier, lack of cycling experience and etc

In the first review you said that x38 is stiff as Dengfu, but in the recent you said that it's not as stiff as Dengfu, but it really shows itself at higher speeds, so I'm confused. So as I understand, do you mean that frame is stiff enough to not loose too much watts while pedaling, but it's not overall suitable for race... Or?

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Best way to describe the feeling and sensation is think 1990s Japanese tuner sports car versus their modern day stock counterpart.
Honestly, I'm a little sad that you didn't like that frame, I don't have expensive frame to compare it with, but man this is the best road bike I've ridden in my life, stiff enough and extremely comfy.

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So, here's my experience with the frame, btw i bought it from Sequel Aliexpress, so they sell it with different handlebar, they also include ceramic BB:

Positives:
1) The frame is super high quality, fork steerer is round, bearing seat stay is also perfect fit without wobble, inside is clean and not bad.
2) It's stiff, responsive as my aluminium frame, but much more comfortable (i'm living in Uzbekistan and our roads are not that good), i'm using 28c tyre btw. But some folks including my LBS master and friend who saw how i ride and tried bike by themselves, said that it wobbles a little bit and they said that it's not a bad thing, but i didn't noticed, coming from Aluminium frame and and i wanted the same stiffness.
3) Handlebar is also stiff, and really good
4) I thought that i need to replace ceramic bearings in BB, but by a spin test, it spins extremely good.
5) TanTan made a really good thing with their seatpost, that have rails like TT bikes, allowing you for wider range of movement.

Negatives:
1) Handlebar, seatpost clamp have such a tight fit, that they need to be polished or you just couldn't insert them.
2) LBS master said that he tried everything, by couldn't route cables internally, they are visible under stem, he said that holes in handlebar are small.


Sorry for my bad english and low amount of photos, i didn't have time to make them :)

*update*
Components and everything else for the bike including prices you can find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NXJkVPyU0gNzbjs-0Z0nKeOFNHTmwJx_35oN1GhVfI0/edit?usp=sharing
The overall weight is 8.3kg

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: 105 DI2 bike for 1550$
« on: July 25, 2023, 11:24:00 PM »
Yes, it seems taobao is the only place you can buy them, but that's alright since you can use visa card and deliver it with forwarder. Regarding frame geometry and look, it doesn't look like SL7, the closes I found is Canyon Aeroad, look at the thick fork and curves.
I think this bike is just top notch by looking to the price, I bought every component by myself and it was around 1800$ with 105 11 speed mechanical and aluminum Dtswiss e1800 used wheels, so it's a steal if you ask me.

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