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Yes, it is the same shape/design, but operation is a bit different between mechanical and hydraulic brake versions.

In the hydraulic version you can shift multiple gears in one push in both directions.
But the mechanical brake version is different, the thumb lever only shifts one cog at the time.

I received R9 mechanical a few weeks ago, haven't mounted them on the bike yet...

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My guess is they kept the internals of the shifter and just changed the lever design. Probably costed too much to engineer the shifting mechanism into the mechanical mold or maybe it has some patent reason. I was so excited to see them at first thinking I could finally get Campy slam shifting with Shimano hardware on rim brakes (always wanted it ever since I used a Campy shifter). Imagine my surprise when I received them, and they would only do 1 shift into the harder gear

Maybe there is just a mechanical blockage inside the new style brake levers. Similar to what campy did in Ekar.
I almost doubt they could mount old mechanism inside the new style levers, because the position of the downshift lever is completely different in new vs old.

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But if it is the same style thumb shifter as Hydro R9/RX why could you not shift multiple gears at once as Alex Jones mentioned?

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Wait, these do not use the same thumb shifter as the hydraulic R9 and RX?

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: 14 speed cassette
« on: September 17, 2024, 07:47:58 AM »
What are the gear ratios of that 14s cassette?

14s would be really nice for road 1x if the range is ~400%

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX and GRT compatiblity
« on: June 23, 2024, 01:03:37 AM »
Yes, no problem, there is space for at least 40T...

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX and GRT compatiblity
« on: June 22, 2024, 03:17:08 PM »
Its more of a "fun budget project aliexpress style" build...

Thrust carbon frame size M (should have probably gone for the L, but I was afraid it would end up being too long with drop bars). 250€
SRsuntour XCR34 forks (bought 3 years ago on Wiggle for 60€ :P)
Ryet 29" carbon wheels with Conti RaceKing tubeless tyres 260€+80€
Ltwoo RX shifters and GRT derailleur  160€+45€
ZRACE X2 brake calipers with SRAM 180mm + 160mm rotors 40€+15€
ZTTO 9-50 cassette 110€
Raceface crankset (leftower from a broken Canyon) + ZTTO PF30 BB xx + 15€
Xcadey power meter + 36T deckas chainring  220€+10€
450mm carbon seatpost 27.2mm 20€
Mixed 6D carbon saddle 20€
Bunch of other small parts from AE (tubless tape, handlebar tape, tubless valves, stem, spacers, chainstay guard ...)  30€
Stans tubeless sealant 15€
Old Look keo pedals (yeah road...) ??€

All in all its 10.6kg as it is... but the main problem is extremely heavy fork.
I'm thinking about replacing it with some AE rigid carbon fork.
Would probably suit the bike more. And drop the weight below 9kg.

It rides nice, could not test it much since I'm still recovering from a knee surgery... so I just took it for a slow 15km spin on flat gravel roads. Its very fast, on the tarmac it almost feels like a road bike.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: LTWOO RX and GRT compatiblity
« on: June 20, 2024, 07:08:14 AM »
So I went on and purchased this combo...
GRT derailleur and RX shifters, ZRACE X2 calipers and combined it with 9-50 cassette from ZTTO.

And happy to report everything works fine from shifting to braking.

Did not ride the bike more than few hundred meters so far, will report back if I discover anything weird.

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26er & 27.5 (650b) / Re: Looking for a 27.5 trail frame
« on: May 09, 2024, 02:04:32 PM »
My canyon spectral 27.5 rear triangle is bent and I'm looking for a new frame.

I had my eye on the AM831 but after reading Snacks his topic and FullCarbonAlchemist's suggestions, on that frame the bottom bracket will probably be too low.

Does someone know a fully trail frame that would work better with 27.5 wheels and a 160mm 27.5 fork?

I have the same problem, and would love to know what frame did @jondb end up using, if at all?

Few days ago my Spectral AL EX 27.5 broke at the seat tube.
Crack propagated from the dropper post cable hole around the seat tube, snapping it completely.
Luckily it failed when I was going uphill, otherwise it would be "an interesting experience"...

The bike is 7 years old and was ridden very little, just 3160km.
It was my third bike, and I never used it "as intended".
I'm a road cyclist, and I did most of the riding with this bike on local "rough gravel" roads, with occasional smooth downhill trails.
No bike parks, no "big" jumps, no crashes... so you can imagine I was quite shocked that this happened.
I have several bike, some even 20 years old... never have I seen anything like it.

Also the bike never "suited me"...
I always felt I was sitting way back... feeling like I have to hold on for dear life when going up steep hills.
Probably due to quite old-school geometry of this bike.

Since it is just one year over the warranty period (just 6 years for Canyon  :-\ )... I do not expect getting anything from them.
I sent them an email, but after few days no reply.

So now I'm looking what to do with the components that are left over.

Unfortunately I could not find any true 27.5 bike frames in the "china town".
Most of the models on sale are 29/27.5+, so that makes use of my existing components quite a pain in the back.

The FM1001 looks "interesting".
It has relatively low BB drop, and I like the steeper seat-tube geometry, it would shift me forwards on the bike, which I missed on the Canyon.
Maybe if combined with 2.6" 27.5 tyres, the BB clearance would end up being acceptable.

Fork Axle to crown length of 27.5" 150mm fork is quite similar to 29" 140mm fork, just a few mm difference, so I guess that would work.

Dropper post diameter is also 30.9, like on Canyon, and other stuff like brakes and groupset should not be an issue at all.

Only thing that would probably need replacing is the rear shock...
Canyon uses "standard mount" 190mm / 51mm shock.
And Carbonda is Trunnion 185mm / 50-55mm.
Do you think it would be possible to run 190mm shock from canyon with Trunnion adapter, or would the linkage hit the frame when extended fully?
That would be quite nice, because it would raise the rear end ~10mm and make it even more "XC like" and I would end up with ~125mm travel, which I would actually prefer.

Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear your opinion.

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Well that is a great idea.
You just need to provide a way to connect a cable to the lever along the hydraulic cylinder.
So if you use hydraulic, you just use cylinder. O
f you use rim brake you actuate both the cable and cylinder at the same time, but cylinder does nothing.
I wonder how nobody thought of that before...

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seka Spear
« on: May 05, 2024, 01:52:15 AM »
Spear in L is basically exactly the same as Pinarello Dogma F 56.

LR on the other hand is a bit longer and lower. Comparable to old Canyon Aeroad M or Giant Propel ML.

I like this staggered sizing options, maybe L could be even a bit more relaxed, it would fit more people.

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Component Deals & Selection / LTWOO RX and GRT compatiblity
« on: May 04, 2024, 04:07:53 PM »
Hi chinertowners... :)
I would like to build a hardtail MTB with suspension and drop bars...

Idea is also to have dropper post.
I would like to use RX levers in combination with GRT derailleur.
The left RX lever would be used as a dropper post actuator (with some modifications to the mechanism)

Does anybody know if the derailleur pull ratio of the GRT and RX levers is the same?

And another question, what would happen if I would use MTB style (2 or 4 piston) brakes in combination with any of those levers?
Since all the mounting points for the brakes will be post mount, I would prefer to use MTB specific brakes, to avoid unnecessary flat mount to post mount adapters.

So ideal combination would be RX levers, GRT derailleur, ZRACE x2 or x4 calipers.

What do you think, is there any chance this would fit together?

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I fitted Ltwoo TX 1x12s on my 2017 Canyon Spectral.
Upgrading from 1x11s SRAM GX.

I combined it with 9-50T ZTTO ULT cassette and YBN 12s chain.

Shifting performance itself is good, I can't say its any worse than GX.
It is reliable, predictable, shifts OK under load.
Indexing is good, easy to setup.

Quality of the components seems good.
The only thing that is a bit "iffy" is the cable guide on the derailleur, it is plastic and looks like it could break easily if something would hit the derailleur. Will see how it holds up...

What bothers me is the ergonomics of the levers, GX has much nicer position of the levers.
On TX you have to place your finger in a bit weird position to shift.

I did not experience any chain drops so far, but I do not run extremely aggressive trails.
My riding is mostly XC.

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Component Deals & Selection / Re: XD 12 speed cassette options
« on: January 27, 2024, 02:32:30 PM »
ZTTO 12s 9-50 feels nice... did not do many miles on it... but so far no complaints.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000095191588.html

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