- I put on 32s and you can see from the pics that there’s plenty of tire clearance, probably room for more than the stated max clearance of 38

Nice build, I am becoming more and more interested in this as an all-purpose bike!

Speaking of tire clearance, would you be able to provide a picture/ measurement of the rear clearance down by the chainstays as well? That's usually the tight spot so would be great to see. Also, what's the measured width of your 32c tires at present?

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+1 on that reply. The long teng 301/ Tantan FM301 looks very interesting as an allrounder:
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4792.120.html

Interesting frame, how was the internals of the frame? Clean/ wrinkly/ mixed bag?

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Frame - YFR068
Cervelo stem - alloy
Cervelo bars - carbon fiber
Cervelo stem plug
Cervelo seat post
Cervelo frame bag
Cervelo computer mount
Cervelo stem spacers and a couple of the Airwolf ones

Ok, so original headset bearings, original c-clip/ ring and not the blue Cervélo one? Airwolf bearing cap (that sits between bearing clip and the spacers?
I'm curious as I might do a similar build, but have had a few issues with play in the headset due to the design of the c-clip I think. Curious to hear about your experience in this regard, any play in the headset on yours?

Hi,
On the topic of gravel forks, has anyone seen an alternative to the Deda Gera EDG fork which has a D-shaped steerer?
Looking to convert my old gravel bike to internal routing and possibly adding some fork mounts.

Any ideas/ suggestions on alternatives? I reached out to Airwolf about their gravel fork for their YFR068 but haven't heard back from them, any help is golden

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this one comes the closest to the CruX in terms of geometry, and has one of the lowest weights for a gravel frame you can find as well. Despite the fact that the evidence is clear--with 2 independent reviewers confirming--that this is a bike that "feels slow", I have a hard time wrapping my mind around how that can be.

@GratiotGravel, are you running the same tires between bikes when making your speed/watts comparison?

Are both of you running big tires, generally speaking?

About the geometry (comparing Crux 56 vs LCG071 55), I'd say they are quite different if you're talking about the latest edition of the Crux. Save from the (probably) more complicated carbon layup the Crux also has 1.) 5mm shorter chain stays compared to the LCG071 which would contribute a lot to the perceived "sluggishness" of said bike in my experience. 2.) the Crux has 11mm longer reach which comes closer to a road bike which alters your position to become more aero and aggressive as well as giving your legs some more leverage. 3.) 20,6mm lower stack which could contribute to it feeling a bit more nimble out of saddle.

So summing it all up I think there are quite a few logical reasons for them being quite different bikes. And about the tire size I run the Vittoria Terreno Dry 38/40c tyres on all gravel bikes I test with a set of light Farsport wheels.

I'd look for a gravel bike with as short chain stays as possible where you can run your tires of choice combined with a rather long reach and fairly low stack. The Twitter Gravel V3 has really good geo but unfortunately does look a bit messy inside so can't vouch for the quality, runs great though, very responsive and fun ride. I haven't yet tried the Airwolf YFR068 but that looks quite interesting too (same chain stay length as the Open UP which has a really responsive rear albeit tends to loose grip a bit for various reasons).

Hope that's helpful

Regarding the Miracle debate: According to a guy (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3365.15.html) who allegedly spoke to Miracle earlier this year, they used to produce Yoeleo's older model frames but have since dropped the partnership. Yoeleo is said to have moved to another factory.

My own experience with both the latest G21 and Light Carbon LCG071 seems to be along those lines, they both look very well made. The G21 comes out on top however in terms of finishing and tolerances, looks like it's been latex moulded with very good attention to detail (faced brake mounts even), exceeding the finish of the LC frame. As far as ride feel the G21 is primarily a mile-muncher, very planted and stable.

Would be great if you could post some shots of the internals as well to get a picture of the level of wrinkling inside. BB and down tube as well as head tube would be nice to see 

I’ve ordered numerous frames from china and so far Yoeleo has been the best in terms of finish, Light Carbon too has been very smooth as well as the Dengfu. Twitter bikes was a great mess with loads of residue and wrinkling all over the place but surprisingly turned out to be a rather fun ride albeit making me feel a bit cautious and not pushing it to hard.