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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: October 01, 2022, 12:59:57 PM »
"weight is 1300g, very light for 50mm depth"
what is the innerwidt?

180 DT - 50C - CX - Ray LIGHTCARBON
with 22mm inner width 1470 g

It's the Elitewheels Drve 50D. Inner width 21mm, outer 28mm

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 30, 2022, 04:22:54 PM »
Ok fits, mine with ASX Red weighs 7.5 with pedals.
Costs €5000.
A great bike for the money, and on par with a SL7 Tarmac.
Equivalently I would have to spend over 10k.

Yes. I think Red is about 300g less than Force. I did however save a little weight on the wheelset (weight is 1300g, very light for 50mm depth), carbon saddle (115g), tubolitos (2x40g), tires (240g each), and bartape (50g).

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 30, 2022, 03:20:44 PM »
Class! What was your cost?
Thanks. Total cost including all the tools and accessories I had to buy to assemble it all myself, was 4k€. I think it’s a great price comparing it to bikes with the same components and comparable specs. A Tarmac SL7 Pro AXS costs 9.200€ and weights 7.6kg without pedals.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 30, 2022, 05:54:55 AM »
I love the paint job! Looks awesome, nice job

Thank you. You can't really see how amazing the paint job really is in this photo. It’s a blue and purple chameleon with shinny specks that sparkle with the light. It’s gorgeous, really.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 29, 2022, 03:27:35 PM »
It's done

Velobuild VB-R-168
SRAM Force AXS Disc 12v
Cassete 10-33
Crankset 46/33 - 165mm
Elitewheels Drive 50D
Pedals - Favero Assioma Duo
Tires Continental GP5000 Cream 25c
Tubolitos
Bartape Lizardskins 1.8mm
Garmin Edge 830
Garmin Varia RTL515

Weight: 7.6kg
(With pedals, garmin mount and bottle cages)

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-186
« on: September 22, 2022, 01:37:04 PM »
Not the person you were asking, but I got a similar setup (full sram rival), and it's the sram dub pressfit BB.

I keep reading mixed things about it, some say it's not reliable in theory because of smaller bearings, some say it lasted them forever. I'm expecting it wont last me as long as a BB for a 24mm spindle, but whatever.

I got the same BB. Its cheap, so if it fails it wont be too dificult to replace.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 19, 2022, 06:49:48 PM »
Hi guys. Just received my frame and it all looks good. Just one thing, did you get a crown race with the headset bearings? I didn't get one, and the fork doesnt have a 45⁰ angle to rest on the bottom bearing. Is it supposed to be like this?

Edit: talked to chris and it was supposed to be a crown ring in the headset kit. I ordered one here in the EU to get it quickly.

Also, I think I have a small play in the headset. Maybe I need to cut the fork a little more. If not, I'll order some micro spacers after I get the crown race in place.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 15, 2022, 06:07:47 AM »
Yes, replacement forks are on the way for free. Was going to post an update on the whole process when they arrived. The gist of it is that after some back and forth by email (it did take me a week to get my point accross), they sent me a new fork free of charge. I did get quite frustrated with the process, since I'm not sure why it took them so long to see that my fork was clearly not up to spec. In the end, if the new replacement fork is fine, it was not that bad.

I missed a cycling trip because of it (or actually this bike on a cycling trip), but that wasn't the end of the world.
That is great news. Nice to see that velobuild came through and solved the issue. That actually makes me much more confident in them.

My frame is already in EU, should arrive Monday. Can't wait.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 14, 2022, 11:41:46 AM »
I can't remember, but not that long for me.

I was in contact with Chris recently and they did have some covid-related delays for sending my replacement forks, it might've affected you to? Although my forks were shipped September 7th, so that's after you got your code (implying yours should be shipped to). just contact Chris.

Thanks, I contacted Chris and he sent me the original tracking number, and now I can see the updates.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 13, 2022, 07:09:38 AM »
How much time did it take for you to receive the frame after it was shipped? I got my tracking code on September 3rd, but still no updates on the tracking, I'm finding it strange.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 01, 2022, 09:38:56 AM »
Yeah I know, it would be the first upgrade I do. I just need to hold out a bit to find a deal on a red 46/33 or 48/35 power crank on ebay.

I bought the cranks separate from the chainrings, and it was a little cheaper and easier to get the combination I wanted (165mm, 46/33). If I had bought the complete crankset it would have been 100$ more expensive and I could not find it in stock anywhere.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: September 01, 2022, 04:31:35 AM »
I'm going with the sram rival axs, wanted to upgrade to the red crankf or the same reason, but it comes at a heavier pricetag than I wanted to pay. it does look so sharp though!
In terms of weight its probably the biggest upgrade you can make, apart from wheelset. Rival AXS crankset weight is 877g (48/35, 172.5). Red crankset is 577g. That's 300g diference. Thats a lot of times the difference in weight between a 5.000$ bike and a 10.000$ one.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 31, 2022, 02:09:31 PM »
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going with the Sram DUB BB, they are cheap and it looks like they are reasonably reliable.

Upgraded the crankset to Sram Red, less 150 gr and looks sharp

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 31, 2022, 03:57:07 AM »
I'm looking into the Rotor crankset but with the vegast 24 cranks instead of the Aldhu 24. It's 100€ cheaper. Don't really know the difference between the two. If its just the weight (30gr dif) than the vegast should be fine.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: August 30, 2022, 05:25:43 PM »
It's Chinertown's favorite know-it-all, reporting for duty...

-So I had a Kogel Bearings ceramic DUB to BB30 bottom bracket on my Allez Sprint for 6,500mi/10,500km before I sold the bike. The bearings still ran super smooth just as the first day I installed it. No issues with durability. The original reason for installing the Kogel BB was because the standard $50 SRAM DUB bottom bracket completely crapped out on me in less than 500 miles. I was actually warned by a few peers not to use the SRAM DUB BB and..well...$60 down the drain.

-I also now run a Kogel BB86 on my Winspace T1500. So far 1,700mi/2,700km and no issues. Kogel Bearings almost always offers a "free" set of oversized ceramic pulley wheels with every purchase of a ceramic BB. If not for the visual bling bling, this at least mitigates some of the cost of the BB.

-I also run Wheels MFG outboard BBs on all my other bikes (road/gravel/trainer). This in my opinion is the BEST value in bottom brackets on the market today for the price. One thing to note: People have a tendency to over-torque the pre-load adjuster on their crankset which not only prevents the bearings from running as smoothly as they should, but also will destroy the bearings faster than you realize. Just barely finger tight is all you need. Only just enough to remove any crankset play and not a degree turn more.

-Is a $200 bottom bracket worth it? Probably not, and especially not without a "free" set if pulley wheels. But you can actually feel the difference in smoothness when pedaling, albeit marginal. You can't go wrong with Wheels MFG though. They really specialize in that sort of thing.
I've also looked Wheels MFG as a good option, but the price for the BB86 DUB BB is very close to the C-Bears with ceramic bearings (120-140€). Don't know it the Wheels MFG are worth it at that price, it starts to go into premium territory.

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