I have seen ads on Aliexpress for Tideace 32er carbon wheels.  They have 157 rear hubs, and look nice, except I am wondering why these wheels weight above 200 grams.   I am seeing other 32er pre-built wheels in the 1750 gram to 1900 gram range.  I know that 157 hubs add a bit of weight versus 148 rear hubs. The Tideace offering seems heavy to me.

For bikepacking, single track, and gravel roads, I am wondering if the New Tideace Gravel frame would be a better choice than this Superboost hardtail. 

Quote from: crazyravr on October 27, 2026, 12:56:54 PMI will never understand why people dont like their brakes to actually stop them especially off road

LOL.  If you come from the roady perspective...  Brakes, I don't need no stinking brakes!  If you Come from a MTB DH perspective...  Oh Sh*t!  I can't friggin stop!  I need bigger brakes for this descent.  OTOH, Who needs to slow down when you have good berms..

Another squirrel to chase.  Has anyone measured the weight of an "equivalent volume" seat tool-bag, and compared this to the added frame weight that an "in frame" storage area, and cover adds to the frame?   

Knowing this could justify one approach versus the other. 

Based on frame weights I've seen with "in-frame" storage, this is adding 100 to 200 grams to a frame's weight.

Quote from: Chippy on October 25, 2026, 12:09:26 PMGravel will be Boost and MTB will be Superboost

Except...  The title of this thread states: 32er gravel frame coming- Tideacebike

I believe that this is why pavlo.k made his comment.  If this is a "gravel frame", then why is the fork a 15 X 110 mtb fork?  Superboost was re-invented and introduced (157mm rear hubs) by Pivot in 2016, and the standard still hasn't gained traction in the general MTB community.

These days we have 12 X 100, 12 X 110, 15 X 100, and 15 X 110. 

All of my suspension forks are 15 X 110.  The rigid carbon forks I use on my different hardtails are both 15 X 110, and 15 X 100. My 5 year old gravel bike is 12 X 100. My brand new SPCycle SP-M028 is 12 x 100.

Welcome to the future, except...  I am not able to successfully attach images.  I drag and drop a picture, and then the image opens full screen on my monitor, and locks up my screen, or it appears to attach, but then wont open when I save the post.

Help!!!!

Quote from: pavlo.k on October 25, 2026, 02:33:56 AMsure, I get it. But this one has MTB boost axle 15x110 for the front hub rather than road 12x110 boost I've seen used on some of the western brands.
32" mtbs will have super boost and gravel bikes will upsize to boost which probably means we will need boost cranksets as well

Likely a very simple reason.  Tideace already released their (32er Superboost, 157mm Hardtail) frame and they developed, (or have access to) a 32er front fork that fits 15X110 hubs.  (Likely the fork shown in the first attached image.)

OTOH, The fork that is being sold for the hardtail 32er frame that Seraph, Meinier, BTX and SPcycle are selling use built in adapters where it is possible to change the inserts to fit 12mm thru axles.

Note:  For the life of me, I can't get images to attach. Nothing is working.  I will edit again once I figure this out...

Quote from: pavlo.k on October 24, 2026, 04:44:39 PMMTB boost axle spacing? Is this standard for 32er? I've seen some models with road boost 110x12 and 148x12

When you design the frame to fit 2.4" tires, this drives a wider BB shell (T47 – 85.5 mm). This in turn pushes out the chainline.  A wider chainline works better with a Boost/148 rear hub.
 

Quote from: dmt4500 on October 24, 2026, 05:55:15 PMMax chainring of only 42T is a little disappointing

Consider that the rollout of a 32er wheel is 8% to 10% more due to the larger wheel. This makes a 42 chain ring equivalent to about a 46, depending on the tire you select. 

I like it! I am thinking of building a 32er for my local gravel roads, and to try out for Bikepacking. Fundamental question I have is weather a MTB hardtail geometry, or a gravel bike geometry would work better.   I don't know enough about 32er handling considering I haven't ridden one yet. 

There still isn't all that much data from riders regarding what geometries work best for different riding conditions.

The Tideace 32er hardtail MTB frame is already on my short list.  Primarily because it uses a Superboost 157mm rear hub, and I have numerous 157mm rear hubs laying around as spares for my existing Superboost 29er hardtail build.

I understand that your wheel site states "road and Gravel" in its title, except...

Is it possible to add 32er wheelsets to the database?   (Technically, when I either build or purchase a set of 32er wheels, they will be primarily used on gravel, some asphalt, and occasionally single track.)

How much more complicated would it be to add Carbon rims?  (Not really interested in hubs so I wont bother you with that.)

Thanks.

I searched for different 32er carbon frames being sold through Aliexpress stores.  Bellow is what I found for sale. (Has anyone compared the geometries, and/or if there only a few different ones being manufactured, but under different brand names?)

Seraph Factory FM132 -  https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256812571087047.html?
BXT 32er Boost - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256813122481100.html?
Meinier 32er - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256812702331589.html?
SPcycle SP-M024 - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256812514576018.html?
(No brand listed):  K-M024 - https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256813243970026.html?
*Tideace FM-XC832  https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256811361033768.html?

Edit: *Note, the Tideace is the only one that uses a Superboost 157mm rear hub spacing

If the price is right during the 11-11 sales, I would like to purchase one.

Even it they don't,  it is usually worth waiting for the 11-11 sales.   The best Aliexpress discount coupons, coins and store discounts add up to the best overall savings.

Do you really need those Wheeltop items now, or can you wait a month, now that winter approaches?

Quote from: Serge_K on October 21, 2026, 02:07:55 AMI loathe my iGPSPORT iGS630S precisely because it's closed source, and they absolutely suck at software, and don't give a flying F. Navigation is horrendous, and ghost watts make it half useless. The hardware is actually good.
--> community based software, especially in the age of LLMs, means that China can focus on hardware, and people can hack whatever they want onto it.

As to battery life, fudge packers who dont have access to a wall socket are probably a fraction of 1% of the market.

I have 2 of the iGS630s, Want one? They might make good fishing lures.  Regarding fudge packers versus fudge hackers, fudge packers have you beat by around 5 to 1.  In the USA about .05% of the population Bikepacks, and .01% of the population can write code for, or hack, Android based products.   

I think it is funny that so many of my cycling friend go out and purchase the top end Garmin or Wahoo bike computers, and then use their cell phones to record and confirm routes, view pending climbs, and their cycling computers basically become recorders.  Their complaints being that the screens are to small to actually use them like they do their cell phones.   (I have to add that many have Garmin watches that they wear to gather biometric performance data from.)

From my perspective, bike computer manufacturers have a big challenge in that they are trying to sell a product that will fill all of the "niche" needs plus "features" to a diverse cycling market, that the majority of cyclists believe that they want/need, so that the manufacturer is able to sell their product and make money.  Especially when a cell phone can do everything a bike computer can.

You guys do realize...

Shimano 105 components are manufactured in these countries:  Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, and China.
Shimano Ultegra components are manufactured in these countries: Japan and Singapore, with some small component piece parts being manufactured in Malaysia or China
Scumano Dura Ace components are manufactured only in Japan.

This is likely why 105 is so readily available in China.  Ultegra and Dura Ace groups have to be imported, and this would add cost to their sale prices.

   

Quote from: jfcb on October 09, 2026, 04:18:00 AM

I'd love to buy locally made gear, but it's disappointing that we struggle to produce affordable, high-quality basics in Europe. Take a simple component like a bike cassette—why can't that be produced in the EU at a reasonable price? Whenever a small European initiative pops up, they immediately target the boutique/super-premium market, positioning their product as high-end to chase high margins (though I realize they aren't necessarily making huge profits given their scale). In Asia, the mindset revolves around high volume and lower

We suffer from the same manufacturing problems here in the USA.    China has outfoxed the rest of the world through their version of Capitalism applied to Socialism.   The government has built up a Socialistic manufacturing base where the government either purchases or highly subsidizes huge very modern manufacturing facilities.  Versus our capitalistic approach where if we want to build a manufacturing facility, we have to find investors or secure loans to purchase the facility, machining equipment, infrastructure. and tooling to manufacture a product.  - This approach makes manufacturing our products by small companies domestically a lot more expensive.

For a small bike company in China to get a modern one-piece cassette machined, they can send the design to a government subsidized machine shop and have their parts manufactured at much lower costs than we can.   This doesn't apply as much to carbon frame and rim manufacturing, but a company that has to build a manufacturing facility can qualify for government assistance and/or funding, with the result being that they are still much more competitive than a Western manufactured item.