I can't speak for the Winspace, but I can speak for LightCarbon and the quality is excellent, and the bike rides very well (mine's the lcr-017, not the 018, and if you're looking for more of a race bike than all-road, I'd recommend that one in their line).  For around $1000 delivered (or at least it was a couple years ago), I heartily recommend them.

Quote from: Bulatovic on September 12, 2024, 05:37:40 AM
Hey all!
Thanks to the tips of the internet's favorite 5 year-old, mr Hambini and this thread i've pulled the trigger this summer on the LCR017 (super light frame option) in size M with 400/90 handlebar option. I've been searching for a 2nd bike to complement my Cervelo S5 and replace the alloy BMC Teammachine i have built up, this came up as a very cost effective and what i believe to be a super high quality option.
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Bottom bracket T47/DUB looks to be very good - came at a cost of 10$ - so, no brainer until i get a Hambini one.

Before assembling, make sure you've got a dub BB and not a BB30 (will have the number 30 as part of the model, BB4730 IIRC, for dub it would be BB4729. Had a great experience with LC and my build but they did not seem to appreciate that very special distinction. Your red crank will fit the 30, the same way you can accidentally get gasoline into a diesel tank!

Quote from: Stoemper on June 22, 2024, 01:36:17 PM
dont over complicate it. the T47 standard makes mounting the cups that hold the bearings very easy and assures good alignment. The bearings them selfs have some quality differences but certainly not 200 euros worth of difference.

I went with Praxis. its way better then the elvedes BB that besides not fitting didnt have any trace of grease. These come with some loctite on the thread and pre aplied grease for the axle. I got them for 50 euro's at a local bikeshop. but i see online they can be found for even less like this german based webshop: https://www.bike24.nl/producten/272474?source=SBP&indexName=production_SEARCH_INDEX_NL&objectId=272474&queryId=b9d792503aa25b7f4d3d7200318231ba&userToken=3f2f54e6-6ae2-413c-ac9e-ff96baa5b254

https://praxiscycles.com/nl/product/t47-eb-shimano/

Yeah, I ordered the SRAM one through my LBS.  $45 and I am sure it will do just fine.  Decided to absolutely not overcomplicate it and just wait until they can get it instead of scramble for something from somewhere, if you know what I mean ;-)

Cheap isn't necessarily bad... isn't that why we're all here?

Well, I'll start with getting the right bottom bracket ... while continuing to be driven nuts by the fact that nothing is adjusting right, I notice the printing on the bb: BB3047. It's a 30mm damn bottom bracket! Off to the LBS tomorrow! At least they only charged me $10 for the damn thing!

Build is complete! Thunderstorms and normal life are preventing the first ride but I think we are good to go! ... Except some front derailleur run which I will get into in a minute. 

So far as the build, the only "crappy" bit was the threading on the derailleur hanger was unsmooth, but not unusable by any means.  For the "normal crappy" I think it should be obligatory to tip our caps to the mechanics who have to deal with integrated cockpits on the daily ... chapeau!

So, 2 problems:

1. The BB provided by LightCarbon is fine, except there are no spacers included with it.  Would have been nice to know ahead of time.  You have been warned

2. Front derailleur alignment.  I can't seem to turn the Sram Axis Rival (normal, not wide) FD far enough so it's in line with the chainrings, pretty much ensuring chain rub on the smallest cogs while in the big ring.  Any tricks people here can share?  I'm kinda leaning toward grinding down one side of the curved washer to allow a little more clearance, anyone think of a reason this is a fundamentally terrible idea?  I think even .25-.5mm on the inside edge should be enough for me to line things up.  If it matters, I ended up using a single 4.5mm spacer on the drive side, wasn't able to get close to lining things up, and there really isn't enough clearance with the frame without any spacers drive-side.

Let me know what you think of the build, and if you have some suggestions about the FD, I'm all ears!

Thanks!

Finally got my frame today! Looks really nice. Very little if any overspray anywhere, and almost all the threads were clean (a little burring on the through axle/hanger threads).

Now to build ... one oversight on my part: SRAM DUB spacers?  Anyone else get this frame with the t47 bb supplied by light carbon? According to SRAM for road chain line, it requires 1 3mm spacer on the non drive side. Has this been others' experience?  Thanks in advance for any help there.

Here are some early pics of the frame. The racing green is just a great color, and the decals are nice and clean. There's some "noise" from imperfect masking between the green and pearl white in a couple places but nothing anyone other than me or you all might notice!


Next post will be with the full build ... think I have everything except the spacers, and some damping foam for the internal hoses. Think I will also do another layer of clear coat before really building it ... any pics with parts are just slapped together, didn't even grease any threads! The horror, I know!

Enter

Yup, finally shipped last Thursday. If I'm deciphering the China Post updates correctly, it's been on 2 planes so far ... but I expect it won't get here until the end of next week at the earliest.  Don't worry, I'll be irrationally stalking the tracking information incessantly with great diligence until it arrives!

With that in mind I got a feeling someone else got the last one in that batch ;-)

Thanks for this!  Out of curiosity, what size is your frame?  Hoping my 58 will finally ship tomorrow or Thursday ... fingers crossed ... not getting impatient at all ... nope! ...

Quote from: FMayweather on June 03, 2024, 02:55:37 PM

• For the installation of the rear Rival brake callipers you need 32mm Flat Mount bolts. 27mm are too short and 37mm are too long. I installed 37mm and used 5mm washers as a temporary solution.

I had chatgpt estimate the downtube for me and it came up with 40mmnear the head tube, and 60mm near the bb and it worked out pretty well for me (see all the frame pics above, attaching the downtube shot here).

Don't really have measurements for anything else, but they did a pretty good job with the graphics I provided (vector graphic pdf files are their preference).

Of course anyone with a frame, a piece of string and a little time could probably do better

Hope that helps!

Got my first pics too! Told it will be shipping by end of the week. Fingers crossed! I think it came out pretty nice! Here's the pics! FYI was only able to upload one at a time then had to go back and modify the post. Don't know if that's normal for the site.

Not necessarily on-topic for this site, but I know alot of people are doing builds here in the US.  bikecloset.com has some killer deals on SRAM components, especially Rival ... everything except batteries, cassette and rotors for $460.  Check their "Builder's Corner": https://bikecloset.com/product-category/builders-corner/

Note they have 2 different FD's, one for $59, one for $129, just a head's up!  I have no relationship with them, but have ordered from them a few times and they've been perfectly reliable.

Ironically saw the new thread about bolt length for the LCR015-D with SRAM calipers, and need the same for the LCR017-D.  Anyone know if this also takes 27mm bolts?  Sorry for my ignorance, but are the front fork bolts all standard for SRAM?  Got Force OEM brifter/calipers, so no bolts/washers.  Hopefully someone can kindly tell me what to order! 

Thanks in advance!