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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: January 27, 2023, 08:42:51 PM »
Thanks everyone for their help so far!
I am doing cable routing now and have a question about this plastic insert for the rear mech. How did you get internally routed cables around/through this?
The hole is too small to feed the cable housing through. Does the cable housing terminate internally there and then a smaller section goes from this plastic insert to the mech interface?

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: January 18, 2023, 10:01:26 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian on January 01, 2023, 01:28:04 PM
You mean the threads in the one piece Handlebar for the grub screws, right? I had no issues with these. But there was one other forum member posting here who stripped the threads there after using Loctite. I think it’s safe to say that everything that is threaded on this frame should be met with a lot of caution. The material is not particularly durable and the threads are not particularly clean.

Yes, I finally got a picture of them. They now thread in securely without any issue. Have to be SUPER CAREFUL with threads into composite. Definitely going to use lubricant instead of Loctite.
I did also start cable routing the handle bars. That was pretty tough.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: December 30, 2022, 03:37:35 PM »
Quote from: madmax on December 30, 2022, 11:19:42 AM
See my earlier post on the drilling with the carbide bit & finish with the sanding bit

My Chinese dremel was a pain to use & the company seems to be defunct so I used the bits on my Milwaukee rotary M12 cordless which was easier to use


For direct mount brakes I had a miserable time mounting the front one & removed the thread locker from the bolts (campy)  & cleaned out the inside of the mount point with isopropyl alcohol & a soft rag & used a touch of asc-1 (anti sieze) on the bolt thread to get it started & carefully tightened it

Yes, I know, you should not use grease ppl-1 or asc-1 on this, but I was afraid of damaging the fork etc & I can always use a medium strength blue loctite later if it loosens out

I saw your notes about that specific hole, and sebastian's responses. I used a hand drill and stepped it up like you guys talked about. Then cleaned up the edge of the hole with a dremel.
Did you have any issues threading the bolts into the handlebars where they clamp onto the fork tube? Those are giving me issues too. Thinking I'll have to clean out those tapped holes too.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: December 29, 2022, 06:57:55 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian on December 29, 2022, 05:51:53 PM
There’s no difference. Bolt pattern and threads are identical. Please provide a bit more info. What exactly is the problem. Do the bolts line up with the holes in the frame? Do the bolts not catch the threads? Have you tried to screw something else in to see if the threads actually work? Most brakes come with thread lock applied to the mounting bolts. That might make it harder to screw them in initially.
Only bolts I had were the ones in the brakes. They wouldn't thread together at all. Barely start, tons of running torque. Felt like it was cross threading. I spent the past few hours troubleshooting and I found the solution.
So they are both M6-1 threads. I found this out with calipers, thread standard sheets online, and some pitch gauges. The Shimano Ultegra bolts had included a thread locker. The female threads in the frame ended up having a tiny amount of resin in them. These two things combined made it almost impossible for them to thread together. I carefully (by hand for 80% of the time) ran an M6-1 thread tap through the frame threads to clean them up. Once I had done this, they actually went together.

Tomorrow I drill out the hole for the rear brake cable and file down the interference with the crank spindle. Wish me luck!

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-218
« on: December 29, 2022, 02:05:47 PM »
Quote from: madmax on December 16, 2022, 01:58:19 PM
Yep,    it seems the main issues are

1. Disc brake frame have through axles alignment issues & need facing

2. Paint in the BB threads

3. Bolt in BB height is too high


My frame above is the rim brake version & in my order/email with Chris

1.  I asked for matte black/unfinished frame & to make sure there was no paint
    I did clean out the BB/BSA threads with isopropyl & there was barely any paint in there (yes they do listen in their emails)

2. Front direct mount brake gave me issues & I cleaned that out & I had to coat the threads with ASC-1 anti-seize when mounting the campy brakes
    I have no idea what the heck they put in those holes, but that was a hard install

3. Started to file down the internal bolt & then Sebastian mentioned the Campy spindle is 25mm & will have enough clearence & sure enough that was the case & I did not bother sanding that down


My bike is in the local shop waiting to get the steerer cut & the shifting/indexing setup & then I'll ride & test it out

I did have to go to the Pinarello shop & get spacers so now I have the base spacers from Velo stacked up & then 3 spacers with impeccable finish from Pinarello & it looks a bit comical, but it all fits together...

I just got this same frame yesterday! I got the BB installed after cleaning out the threads. This took less than 1 hour.
I went to install the Ultegra 8010 direct mount rim brakes that I chose and they won't go in. Are the Campagnolo and Shimano bolt patterns the same? Or will the Shimano brakes not work with this frame?

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