As the title says -- I'm looking to build a gravel frame this winter/spring. I've been eyeing those two frames, based on some of the content I have read in this forum (as well as a few other spots).

It's been about 15+ years since I last built up a bike. So I'm not new to this, but I am coming at it like I am new. For all intents and purposes, I should as, things were a little more standardized back then (especially in bottom brackets!)

As a Canadian, I'm wondering what sort of lead time I'd be looking at, the typical import and duties, and other bits of information like that. This forum has a lot of great info, but those factors are a bit of a needle in an overwhelmingly large haystack.

Paint job - This is also another area that I'm not fully understanding -- If I buy from Carbonda, do i just tell them i what color(s) i want? If i go with SPcycle, I'll likely go with an off-the-shelf colour, as I like the metallic red they offer.