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I received my 60/31 wheels last week and have done two short rides so far. Upgraded from the stock Roval CL50 wheels that have done 15000km (its funny that I got almost exactly the same for the Rovals when I sold them, as I paid for these - amazing value!)

I am really happy with the wheels - they feel great and seem fast. I had a lot of crosswind on the rides, and while not a problem, I felt the front wheel being pushed about.


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Hi all,

I just confirmation of my wheels being shipped, looking forward to having them in my hands 8)

Specs:
D60TU-31 T800 rims 24/24H UD matt
With access holes
Internal nipple build
In-house hubs 24/24H 36T rachets enduro steel bearings center lock straight pull for 100*12/142*12 with Shimano HG driver
Sapim CX-Ray spokes
Sapim self-securing nipples

I went with these after discussing with Peter my requirements.
Usecase:
I am 83kg, do a bit of road racing and some races include a tiny bit of pavé or gravel sectors. Never a lot of sustained climbing. Hence the T800 rims for peace of mind and 24 steel spokes. I went with internal nipples to offset (theoretical, I know) 24 vs 20 (carbon) spokes.

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For me, the biggest reason to choose 24mm is that with a BSA or BB86 frame, the bearings are very small for DUB and 30mm axles. So You have better durability (of course there is anecdotal evidence suggesting otherwise...) if you stick with a 24mm Shimano standard axle.

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Just a quick update on my order.

D50CU-33 w/new in-house straight through hubs & 5mm width carbon spokes are ready to ship. 

They look great in the picture and the weight is impressive.

Thanks all for your help and of course to Peter for being so patient and helpful with me as well as for making these wheels available.

I'm still considering these with the 65mm rim (T1100 or T800 TBD), has anyone ordered this configuration?

Also regarding spokes, is there somewhere to compare the different carbon options?

Usecase: Spez Venge '20, road racing flat/tiny hills. 30mm tubeless GP5000s. 82kg cat C.

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I would think that with 32mm tires at an appropriate pressure for your bodyweight, the type of spokes in the wheel make no discernible difference to the feeling of comfort.

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I am interested in hidden nipples as well - I am unable to read stuff like https://wheellabkr.imweb.me/Blog/?q=YToxOntzOjEyOiJrZXl3b3JkX3R5cGUiO3M6MzoiYWxsIjt9&bmode=view&idx=18095954&t=board and not be affected by it  ;D

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Hidden nipples with 50mm rims is almost as aerodynamic as external nipples with 55mm rims, at a lighter weight

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Is anyone looking at this and the Grail 2. gen (SPCycle G068) as well?

I'm trying to decide which to go with. I am currently riding a Giant Revolt (2023) M/L with a 120mm stem and it is just a bit on the small side (I'm 188cm, 90cm inside legs).
My riding is more racing than adventure. On the road I ride a 56cm Venge (2020) and a 58cm Supersix rim(2017). Both are ~400mm reach and with a 130mm stem. Venge has more spacers though ;D

I am drawn to the "progressive" geometry of the G068, but the GR201 seems like a good all around geometry that is similar to, but longer, than my Revolt (which I like a lot apart from wishing it was longer)

Opinions?

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I didn't. There's no benefit for me from going with carbon spokes. Maybe a few grams here and there but steel spoke wheels are much easier to service. I can replace the spokes or hubs at any time without any problems. If I break a carbon spoke I have to order it from China. Carbon spokes require a different hub as well, which I doubt you can source easily.

Thanks, I do think you can use some carbon spokes with standard hubs but I may be mistaking.
In any case I hope you get to test the wheels out and report back, I might copy the setup for my Venge (2020 model).

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Just received pictures of my wheelset from Peter. Turned out lighter than expected. Paintless finish looks sick

Did you consider carbon spokes for these wheels?

Also, does anyone know how the aerodynamics are affected by conventional steel, or carbon spokes? Bladed in either case, of course, and I realise there are a lot of different carbon spokes.

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Ordered a pair of 65mm wheels for a future aero build. 26mm internal width look interesting. One of the few I've seen offered in 50 and 65mm depth. Peter offerd a "paint-less" finish which I didn't know was a thing. Anyone has any experience?

Very interested in hearing more about this. How are you having the wheels built? What tires are you going to use?

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