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29er / Re: Epic Evo Clone
« on: August 29, 2024, 05:16:14 AM »
Does anybody know or have tried using the Epic 8 linkage with the flip chip? Part S236300002, carbon shock extension.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: August 03, 2024, 05:40:32 AM »Yes the adapt bike is the same as the Tavelo arrow.
Cool, at least you can acknowledge that.
How that happened I will leave up to you to make your own stories up and look clever here.
How that happened? We know how that happened. Adapt makes the open mold bike and sells it to other brands, Tavelo being one of them. 1of1, Nich, Oak being others. Pat linked the same frame sold by Oak. It's not news that Adapt is making these.
https://www.oak.cc/bikes/p/twilight-white
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild Quality Control
« on: May 24, 2024, 06:27:40 AM »Agreed. And the 177 is improved over the 168. And the 268 is improved over both 177 & 168.
I wouldn't call the 177 improved at all. It's basically a non-aero version of the 168. Might be lighter but it's not an improvement in my eyes. The 268 is an evolution for sure but that weird quick release thru axle thing is a big step backwards to me. But everybody can have their own opinion. I'd still pick the 168 given the choice of all three.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild Quality Control
« on: May 23, 2024, 08:33:30 AM »
I have a Velobuild 168 and I’d say you get what you pay for. It was $500 for the frameset, you can’t really expect S-Works quality. Even S-Works frames have issues. If you go in with the expectation of a $500 carbon frameset, you’ll be happy and satisfied. I’ve had mine for almost two years and I love it. There are some quirks for sure, but if you’re handy with tools they aren’t an issue. I replaced the rear derailleur hanger which was a job but that’s just because I wanted something specific, the stock on is fine. My paint job has a couple chips on it but it was $100 so I find it hard to complain it still looks great overall and I get so many compliments on it it’s crazy. For the price they’re still very competitive.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« on: May 22, 2024, 08:17:34 PM »
How recessed is the top recessed bearing? Can anybody measure? I attached a picture of what I mean. Basically, how far below the edge of the frame does the bearing rest?
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: May 05, 2024, 05:10:05 AM »Very fair point about the current pricing of both Winspace and Tavelo. But if they are both in fact sourced by Adapt, it's a shame we don't see more bike builds and conversations on their frames on this forum. Especially if we are to assume the quality/fit finish is nearly the same if true.
The question becomes:
1. Does Adapt not (easily) offer up B2C sales?
2. Are people generally just not interested in their frames?
If it's the latter then it's odd to use the Winspace open-mold talking point if people just aren't interested in Adapt's offerings to begin with.
I emailed Adapt to buy a frame and they said no, they wouldn't sell directly to consumers.
Tavelo, Nich, and 1OF1 are all using the Adapt frame. My issue has always been price. People don't want to spend $2000 for an open mold frame. Heck, most people don't want to spend $1500 for an open mold. That's why I never even seriously considered a Winspace. The Adapt looks good, but I'm not spending that on an open mold frame. Maybe for a Bross or Seka that's in house, but even that I'd like to see more reviews of quality and long term durability. Over $2000 for direct to consumer is a tough sell when you can get local shop support with a big brand for $1000 more. Which in my book is worth it. Parts availability, shops in every bigger city, mechanics that are familiar with the brand, warranty support. That's the premium you pay for the big brands. With an open mold, I know what to expect and work on the bike myself. You get a deal but you know you don't have that brand support. At $500, that's worth the trade. $2300? Nope. Not when you can probably get an SL7 for that price.
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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Recommendations for integrated handlebar?
« on: May 03, 2024, 09:04:31 AM »Just arrived in the mail. I haven't ridden on it yet but looks nice, very stiff. Only complaint about it, is the top cap area, there's room for improvement on the fit of that. Got this for $120 USD.
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrMR6l4
Any updates? These look nice. Trying to find a narrow 36 cockpit and it’s hard to find my needed stem length of 120mm. Just looking for a 1-piece that isn’t a noodle and comes in narrow/long sizes.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« on: May 03, 2024, 08:34:24 AM »My 5 cents: careful with colours. You can get super durable decals cut for cheap locally, and you can change your mind every week. You can't change your mind with a colour. A colour also directly affect resale value. I chatted with a guy on Insta with a 168, white, who said his only regret was getting the frame painted white.
I got mine in glass black and am trolling Factor with Tractor decals. If i grow up one morning, i can remove them, it's fully reversible. My previous bike i painted orange because i loved the Giant propel from 2000 something in matte orange. Let's say my paint job didn't come out neaaaaarly as nice... I wish i had kept it black.
Counter point. I got my 168 painted in white with pink logos and a blue fork. I have zero regrets after over a year with this paint job. I bought an open mold because it was cheap and gave me the option of custom paint. I don’t have nor did I ever think of resale value because it’s an open mold and who is buying second hand open mold frames? I wanted something fun and unique.
My point is: get the paint you want. Forget about resale value. Get the paint job that excites you and makes you want to ride your bike. We’re not talking about $5000 frames and $2000 custom paint jobs. Mine cost an extra $50 to go wild and do custom logos. The whole package was like $650 before shipping. Have fun with it. I can say with 100% certainty that I would have regretted getting a black frame. Part of the fun with an open mold is the custom paint options. That’s my opinion at least. I didn’t see the point of getting a plain matte black frame when custom paint is so cheap.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Seka Spear
« on: April 30, 2024, 05:40:13 AM »
Yea, I had the same reaction as you guys to that thread. Maybe one useful post for every 10 petty arguments about various things.
Just looking at the bike itself, it looks well made. I can't say I have any experience with Seka but the details look great and it's a really nice finishing kit they're including. I am always wary about aero claims and honestly don't really put much weight into them after seeing that Cade video where there was like 5W between the Foil and Addict in real world riding conditions. Arguing over 1-2W in test conditions just seems silly. But the weight is nice if true.
My big question is the price. I know it's not an open mold frame but it's still a tough ask for what they're charging (I think around $2,000 USD). Like I said, I'm not experienced with Seka but I think they're going to have a hard time selling them in the US for that price without years of quality behind them. This isn't saying they're not quality, more that they don't have the well known name. Winspace charges similar and has a pretty good following after years of putting out quality bikes. But even still, they are a tough sell to a lot of people who don't want to spend $1,500 on a Chinese frame. I think Bross is in the same boat, albeit they can throw the Cube name around to show they make quality bikes.
Either way, I'm interested to hear how it rides. The integrated cockpit looks really nice and I'd almost be tempted to pick one up for a different bike if the price is right. Maybe not the best name (I know it's a sword but it's still going to have a connotation that's not great) but the size options are great.
Also, anybody else getting Red Bull vibes from the special edition paint job?
Just looking at the bike itself, it looks well made. I can't say I have any experience with Seka but the details look great and it's a really nice finishing kit they're including. I am always wary about aero claims and honestly don't really put much weight into them after seeing that Cade video where there was like 5W between the Foil and Addict in real world riding conditions. Arguing over 1-2W in test conditions just seems silly. But the weight is nice if true.
My big question is the price. I know it's not an open mold frame but it's still a tough ask for what they're charging (I think around $2,000 USD). Like I said, I'm not experienced with Seka but I think they're going to have a hard time selling them in the US for that price without years of quality behind them. This isn't saying they're not quality, more that they don't have the well known name. Winspace charges similar and has a pretty good following after years of putting out quality bikes. But even still, they are a tough sell to a lot of people who don't want to spend $1,500 on a Chinese frame. I think Bross is in the same boat, albeit they can throw the Cube name around to show they make quality bikes.
Either way, I'm interested to hear how it rides. The integrated cockpit looks really nice and I'd almost be tempted to pick one up for a different bike if the price is right. Maybe not the best name (I know it's a sword but it's still going to have a connotation that's not great) but the size options are great.
Also, anybody else getting Red Bull vibes from the special edition paint job?
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Seka Spear
« on: April 29, 2024, 07:34:17 AM »
Seka just released their new frameset and it looks pretty good. Kind of poised as an endurance bike judging by the geo numbers but not super relaxed. Weight is really nice and looks decently aero. There’s a big discussion about it over on WeightWeenies (along with the usual bickering). Interested to hear what people here think. It’s not listed on the Seka website yet though.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Frames For Tall People
« on: April 29, 2024, 07:30:58 AM »Being tall makes searching for a nice frame that suits you a pain. I myself am 192cm (6'3) with a 93cm (3'½) and am still searching for quality frame for a decent price.
At the moment I'm making a list of manufacturers/frames/components that would suit me but, with little succes. So far I've only been able to find the VB-R-077/LTK118.
If anyone has any good frames for tall people please feel free to share them so I can make a list for all the other struggles out there!
Thanks
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Look at the new Seka Spear. I’m almost your height and intrigued by it. It’s got a higher stack than most Chinese frames and looks well made.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Tavelo Aero Frame
« on: April 05, 2024, 07:34:44 AM »looks way more interesting that the attack, that felt like the most generic dropped stays frame I've seen in my life and was basically an open mold frame
edit: this is the Adapt QX-B01 frame http://www.adapt-bikes.com/Products-detail?product_id=95
that being said it's not a bad design, front end is straight up a stevens arcalis, which tests very fast, rear end is tavelo attack
Not a huge fan of the BB86. Not a great setup for larger diameter spindles. Was hoping for something like a T47.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« on: April 04, 2024, 11:20:16 AM »Thanks Serge, you answered everything I had and probably every follow up question i had to boot alsoWill go with the ER9 and the 268.
Build is something like this:
Frame 268 (Racing Green) Order process is really easy and Chis's communication is great so far.
Group ER9
Magene PES cranks/power
Pass Quest rings
Ryet Saddle
Gp5000 (probably 30 but 32 if it fits)
Just wheels to figure out 50 to 60mm with internet 21+ and under 700 dollars and under 1600g would be good suggestions welcome.... must have shiny finish preferably no decals as going no logos with the design.
Order this week but wont be building till first week of June so ill try to share some photos
I got them during the 11.11 sales, but I have a set of Farsports Hypers with 24int/30ext, 58 depth, with carbon spokes for $700. Weight is 1300g. Just mounted up some GP5000 S 28/30 that measure 29.5/31.3 inflated. I'm super happy with them.
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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Interesting Aliexpress finds! - good deals, interesting stuff, new products etc!
« on: April 01, 2024, 04:40:14 PM »My p505 base combo has been great and honestly a onesided crank pm isnt even a comparisom
Same. The Magene PM with cranks for $300 is a steal. PM is dead on with my other power meters. And the cranks were a straight swap with Shimano and took less than 10 minutes for the install. Couldn't have been easier. I'm considering another set for the crit bike actually.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Frame "inspiration" reference thread
« on: March 26, 2024, 06:14:23 PM »
Spycycle R065 is basically the Canyon Aeroad.
