Hopefully sombody can give me a steer on this.

Probably like most of you I've looked at lots of integrated cockpits on aliexpress. I've bought a few and have no complaints. Funnily enough, i've snapped two handlebars over the years and both were from European brands, never any of the direct purchase Chinese manufacturers. So, I've no real reservations about this, but do have a few questions.

Particularly as this is a bit of a different design - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006141326229.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.715bDOdyDOdyKR&algo_pvid=b99199b4-801a-4ef3-9940-a351b8c2fb81&algo_exp_id=b99199b4-801a-4ef3-9940-a351b8c2fb81-6&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%21209.83%21146.88%21%21%211612.81%211128.97%21%40211b618e17223704071591471e8b8e%2112000035944739518%21sea%21IE%212189086849%21X&curPageLogUid=olSSPqVDm8Dr&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

I think its a copy of something I think I've seen. The original goes for 500 plus I seem to remember. You can see it helps you get in a very aero position.

So, three questions: One, can anybody remind me of what this is a copy of? And two, has anyone any idea of the manufacturer? and three, anyody know if this is UCI legal? Will i get called out by if I show up at a UCI sanctioned race with one of these?

Thanks in advance for your views

I bought a knock off of a system six three years ago through Costelo (areosix is what its called on aliexpress) they used to be a big reputable seller. The frame is quite heavy, but I think it looks great and the handling makes me descend faster on this than on any bike I've yet owned. I use it for training and absolutely beat the hell out of it - I'm nearly 90kg. It's still going well and no complaints except there is nearly 2kg of carbon in the frame and insanely stiff. That's probably why it seems bullet proof.

Just got the Og Evkin frameset that looks like a madone. Og Evkin seems to have a good reputation and I've been happy with parts I've got from them. No isospeed, but it is clearly meant to look like a Madone. Haven't built it yet. Tolerances seem ok and carbon layup is far better than on the aerosix. It just feels much more refined and less agricultural. Unbelievably, I paid less for it. 550 euro including shipping and taxes. If I have a bit of bother building it I can live with that for the price.

I've got the Yoeleo R9, people think its a Aeroad when I'm on group rides. Its solid enough. I don't love it, but its reliable, light and good value for money. But, the build was not straightforward at all and Yoeleo was a bit sketchy to deal with considering they are supposed to be premium chinese carbon.

Saying all that, there are knock offs that I don't like the look of. Ads that don't show the full frame, or ads that are clearly pictures of the original frame. Seems like a scam.

My take on it is that you are crazy to expect great aftersales support or the refinement of the original or a build that doesnt require some problem solving. But that doesnt mean that you are buying a death trap unless you are very unlucky or you are deailing with a seller/manfacturer with no reputation.

Now available as the C26-2 in the Ceccotti store.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3997032?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000008.6.44876c65pVXGoS