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Has anyone out in the real world been able to quantify whether or not the square downtube is actually causing significant drag? Meaning, does the riding dynamics on road feel draggy? Can you actually tell?

I spent a significant amount of time riding side by side with friends on flat terrain, and as someone who pays close attention to power data, I feel confident that this bike doesn't come with an aero penalty. Based on what I've read about aerodynamics, the downtube is positioned in the 'dirty air' created by the front wheel, so having a slightly less aerodynamic shape doesn’t significantly impact performance.

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I'll update my own thread with my experience to help others.

I decided to try the 12-speed XDR cassette available under several brands on AliExpress. I paired it with a KMC 12-speed chain and a standard 5-bolt 11-speed chainring, which I have a large selection of. My thought was that it would be beneficial in the long run to stick with the Shimano-standard chain and chainring while using the AliExpress cassette.

Initially, I was optimistic. Shifting was decent—it did hang slightly on one gear but would eventually shift, just slowly.

However, after riding for several days, the performance declined. Most notably, the aluminum cog on the cassette is made from a lower-quality alloy compared to other cassettes; it developed chips and wear that became sharp, affecting performance to the point that the chain couldn’t stay in that gear consistently.

As for the Stone chainrings, I believe the 5-bolt 110 BCD Stone ring still follows Shimano standards, while some of their newer models use the SRAM tooth profile.

In the end, I returned to a SRAM cassette with a Flattop chain, pairing it with the Wolf Tooth 5-bolt 110 BCD Stop Drop B (which is SRAM-compatible), and everything is now working smoothly. I'm still reliant on SRAM cassettes, but I’ve been able to find them at better prices on eBay.

Hope this helps others considering a similar setup

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I have used both the ryet full carbon saddle and the plastic base one.  All have held up very well, and have continued to buy them.   In one instance I ran it with an elita one seatpost that just used the turned metal rail clamp.  After it slipped a couple of times I over torqued it, and it worked fine for a year but I compromised the carbon rails (user error/less than ideal design).   The saddle eventually failed while bunny hopping and landing hard on the saddle.  For cx/mtb, I err on the steel rail version.

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Component Deals & Selection / Axs compatibility and Chinese components
« on: September 26, 2024, 08:43:20 AM »
I have tried to find good information on this subject all over and I am looking for real world experience here, or informed takes. The context of my inquiry is trying to minimally add axs to an existing 1x cross bike and keep, most importantly, my crank based PM (5 bolt 110 bcd spider) as well as other components.  The axs road components changed chain roller diameter size and it recommend everything be axs, but you know, this forum.

Some comments on the XDR ztto and goldix cassettes suggest they work best with standard 12 speed chains (eagle, kmc, ybn 12s) and do not work well with sram flattop.

What is performance like with sram axs road cassette and non flat top chain? 

KMC claims their new 12s chain is compatible across sram road axs and shimano.  How is that possible given the sram roller size change?

Is it best to keep flattop chain with sram axs cassette and just run an old 1x chainring and deal with whatever accelerated wear there may be on the chainring? I have had good experience with cheap 1x rings and don't mind changing them out more frequently to keep my crankset and pm

With regards to chainrings, what is performance like with a standard 1x narrow wide ring with non flattop chain? again I want to keep 5 bolt spider PM. 

Thanks for any input

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One takeaway from the grading scale is the sample rate for QC.  I know everyone who drops a couple thousand dollars on a frame would love to believe it has been finely inspected in the factory, but the reality of QC is that you need to define a sample rate and have a process that is capable.  A more frequent sample rate is expensive for the labor to check, but it lowers the probability that process went sideways during the production.   It doesn't eliminate the chance that problems happen. 

I hope LightCarbon addresses this frame and replaces it.  I do think a lot of brands buy with smaller QC sample rates but rely on after market warranty to take care of issues when they arise, or they put in their own post-production inspection to return frames not up to brand standard (but this seems unlikely to me/or at least is a sample rate that is not 100%).

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Looks great, and I love personal referential branding!

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I am both excited for a Hambini video on this frame.  From my experience, if was a fantastic build and has been a great bike, and I would like for its internet cred to be maintained.

One update, while I don't have access to any sort of formal data, all my intuition and imperfect benchmarks on aero has been good despite the shape of the downtube. Riding side by side with others that I know their pm and my other bikes, this one has held up great.

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FYI - the ZRace XG calipers have been working fine at least for road. Nothing wrong with LTwoo calipers and they might be better if aero is a priority, but since I focus more on climbing I prefer the weight drop of the XG calipers. I've been using them on both my mechanical Ultegra and ER9 bikes with no problems so far.

My experience with the xg calipers was fine for the first installation.  But upon trying to rerun lines a second time, I found the threads to be very soft and stripped them trying to crush an olive.  That and the ability to block the brake fluid with the hose placement (shown in trace velo video) was also annoying.

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Yeah I am not too concerned.  As a whole, the frame seems solid and strong.  One of my teammates had a Trek Boone that you could press the middle of the top tube and it would flex.  I think it is the nature of a wide tube diameter and a thin wall. 

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Took me a bit longer to make this post.  Overall experience has been really good.  The fit of everything was spot on. Full build came in at 15.2 lbs without pedals (size 52).  For being that light, I am also surprised at how stiff it feels in accelerations.  My order was handled well and had great communication. I really like the color but it is more purple than I expected, but it looks great.  You can see in the sunlight it has the orangish chameleon, but the purple is the dominant color. Paint selection was LCB-02HS. Current setup is gp5000 28mm, but have a second wheelset with 32mm gp5000. One bummer is the width of handlebar options.  I went with the 40 x 110 handlebar and I have been running narrower bars and would have selected narrower, if available.

I will quickly address some of the items on this thread:
My frame has a drain hole under the BB
I will say that the layup feels pretty thin below the bottle cage on the downtube.  It is a larger tube size, but the wall thickness feels thin.
Brake caliper mounts are faced
Rear thru axle does require more torque than other frames (but doesn't appear to be any thread damage, so I don't know, not really an issue to me, but a previous poster described this).

I had to cut the seat tube to get my fit right, but just 1/2" or so.
I also ran into an issue with the seatpost clamp.  After riding I needed to adjust, and upon retorque the clamp to 6nm something with the pins that hold the bolt broke.  I have contacted LC and will update with how quickly they respond.  I am pretty sure their clamp is a tried and true design across other frames, so I am not quite sure. I want to tear it apart to see whats going on but it is kind of a captive part.

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I received frame yesterday, and am happy to report that some of the issues posted here the past few weeks were not a problem for me. 

Clear coat over a really great chameleon paint

Faced brake mounts

Fit of everything seems really great

I requested both round and oval seat clamps and both were provided, showing attention to detail

Will post pictures when its complete

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I ordered back in December.  Its ship date has been pushed back 2 times now.   I hope they are planning on building some stock, because waiting this long is brutal.

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