Quote from: Fleckinger on July 11, 2024, 03:00:37 AM
I appreciate your experience, but it's just impossible to believe. 250 watts for average rider is 34-35 kph (21-21.7 mph) and 3-4 mph (4.8 - 6.4 kph) difference which you claim, it's around 100 watt difference in power, it's insane. The vbr268 must be made from noodles.

I wonder if there is a placebo effect. While I don't disagree the SL8 is the better finish. I can't imagine those gains from the frame alone.

For some reason my hyperlink to a YouTube video showing up the new L-TWOO eRX 'Blue' edition update did not go through.

https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-gear/l-twoo-drivetrains-taipei-2024/

Also, why is LTWOO charging 100$ more for the option "with box". Is the version without box used in any way?

Any news when the L-TWOO eRX 'Blue' edition will hit the shelves



From youtube:

QuoteFwiw, I've installed 5 er9 groups. All been flawless. Haven't ridden in the rain, people have had success with liquid electric tape around the RD plug to seal it. Everybody seems to have the new version with springs and not tabs in the battery. That was causing the group to die / go to sleep for no reason. The other problem for some is weather proofing, and this liquid tape thing seems to work. I don't think anybody has had problems beyond that. Bearing in mind that most people who install these groups are individuals who don't really know what they're doing, me included.

What's an  'RD' plug?

Thanks the input

What about something like the ICAN FL1 (Aethos clone) instead of the R065

I'm new to geometry comparisons etc. But it seems like the Aethos might be a more of an all -rounder? However in fairness their stack/reach are essentially identical.

I'm potentially worried the SPCycle R065 might be too aggressive or maybe I'm just hesitant

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/velobuild-vb-r-268-2024-54,spcycle-sp-r065-2024-m,triban-rc520-2019-s,triban-rc520-2019-m,specialized-aethos-2024-54/

Quote from: PaxiH on May 25, 2024, 10:22:17 AM

As already mentioned by other people the carbon in some areas (downtube, toptube) Is very thin. You can easily flex it with your thumb. I don't know if that is normal for that kind of frames. I just want to say it.

Isn't that super scary? Not sure if I would feel safe 40mph downhill on  a frame I can flex with my fingers     

Here's a comparison against other popular frames.

They told me they have all sizes in stock just yesterday.

I also added this bike to geometry insights!

I completely agree that some decals can completely change the look of a plain black frame. A plain frame in a single color looks unfinished or lacking, similar to a car without a badge. Therefore, I appreciate some design.

Regarding the image you linked, it seems like the white and blue stripes in the back of the frame are painted? I'm not entirely sure, but could you stretch the vinyl around such curves?

Quote from: Serge_K on April 24, 2024, 04:16:00 AM
My 5 cents: careful with colours. You can get super durable decals cut for cheap locally, and you can change your mind every week. You can't change your mind with a colour. A colour also directly affect resale value. I chatted with a guy on Insta with a 168, white, who said his only regret was getting the frame painted white.
I got mine in glass black and am trolling Factor with Tractor decals. If i grow up one morning, i can remove them, it's fully reversible. My previous bike i painted orange because i loved the Giant propel from 2000 something in matte orange. Let's say my paint job didn't come out neaaaaarly as nice... I wish i had kept it black.

decals? Aren't decals simply stickers that typically have a logo on them? How would they change the complete bike color?

Did they increase the price of these units substantially since release? I saw some earlier videos where folks said they purchased the groupset for 500$ ish.

Here's I think where I am (I'm considering a size 54 in all of these frames)

Velobuild 268  more aggressive
Lightcarbon LCR 017  similar but slightly longer stack (7mm, so marginal)
TanTan X38  longest stack by 20mm over the Velobuild 268

I feel like any of these options above would be a great frame to move on from my Triban?

Upon further study I'm thinking:
Velobuild vb-r-268
sp-cycle sp-R065 

Quote from: Serge_K on May 29, 2024, 04:14:15 AM
I guess it would be pretty straightforward to create a questionnaire that would fill in a simple database with important metrics. Without knowing your age, weight, measurements, flexibility and so on, we're shooting in the dark, as you didn't write much in way of context.
The Triban RC520 is pretty crap, it's not just in your head.
Assuming you're young enough, either flexible or willing to get flexible enough (not that hard), i dont think you need to overthink it too much, the VB 268 will probably be life changing, and you dont need to spend more, especially if you order it black. To customize, you can get decals cut locally (or via aliexpress) for cheap, it's a good way to save 100 usd.
Given your budget, you should assume you'll be your own mechanic going fwd, because labour cost post inflation & now that bikes are fully integrated can double the cost of the bike in a few visits to the LBS... You'll also learn a ton.
Expect to start with all the spacers on the 268, because that decathlon bike has a VERY relaxed geometry. Then you may find yourself removing spacers over time, which will mechanically go faster on the flat. From this perspective, make sure to buy a cockpit that allows to have spacers above the stem, otherwise you'd have to cut the steerer every time, which is a disaster. It would also be pretty smart to get a bar & stem vs cockpit, because you may also want to change stems.
From a bike fit standpoint, given the uncertainty, you would benefit from a bike that is NOT fully integrated, to allow making changes more easily.
Changing anything on a fully integrated bike is absolutely miserable.
The best bike is a comfortable one that fits you.

Thanks for the critical feedback. I should have known better to include more details on "myself". Regarding the Triban I have drop down a spacer or two since I purchased the bike and I am conscious of trying to ride in the drops as much as possible.
33M, very flexible, 75kg/165lb, 5'8", inseam  31".

The thing I am MOST excited about is building this bike out myself. I've done all the mechanics on my current Triban and my old Fixie bike, including the upgrades listed in the OP. I'm not at all concerned about building this one out, except for the integrated wiring and integrated cockpit. The integrated cockpit sounds the most frustrating if I need to change things.
Definitely wanting to keep this build far under 2k, we will see how close I get, but I need to start from a specific frame and build things out from there.

VeloBuild  268  in size Medium seems like it would be a good option coming at under my budget.
I compared also the Hyggee but the Velobuild seems to be a higher QC frame

I'm considering a budget of $700 USD for the frame alone. Are there any options in this price range other than Velobuild? I've also seen the Hyggee frames selling for a bit less than that, but I believe the Velobuild quality control might be better.

I plan to repurpose my Mavic Krysium wheelset that I've used on the Triban until I save up for a carbon wheelset. As for the groupset, I'm thinking of going with the Wheeltop EDS-TX.

I haven't budgeted our the rest of the build or components, as I wanted to start from a frame and go from there.

Hey everyone,

I know these types of posts aren't everyone's favorite, but I could really use some help avoiding decision paralysis.

I've been riding a Triban RC520 for the past few years and have made a bunch of upgrades, like a new wheelset, changes to the bottom bracket, shorter crank arms, seat post, seat, and cassette, and switching to conti gp500 tires with cyclami TPU. Even with all these changes, the bike still feels super heavy, and I think it's time for an upgrade. 

My daily training rides usually involve around 250m in elevation and cover a distance of 27km.

Any suggestions for a new frame would be greatly appreciated, feel free to also PM if that's easier. I'm definitely budget oriented, so I'd like to keep the frame under 700$. I purchased the Triban RC520 in a size medium, but given my height of 5'8", I'm between sizes, and I should've gone for the small.


Frames I've seen around these forums:
Velobuild R265
Yishun R1058/Light carbon Light carbon LCR017-D
R1058
Yishun R086D


I'm not exactly sure what to look for when searching for frames, other than weight and overall geometry, but I don't have much experience so I've just  been comparing with bike geometry/insights and they all look within range of what would work for me?