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AliExpress has a sale from tomorrow. Stuff will drop in price including the model s frameset and you should get some discounts codes on the launch page...ie £65 off a £400 spend ( might be local sensitive)

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I've put some miles on my Hygge Model S, and here are my general thoughts:
Pros
Paint Job: The paint job is superb. While I think purple on blue would look better, it's hard to fault it at this price point. However, the paint scratches easily, so be careful during the build process.
Delivery and Packaging: It arrived in about two weeks from China in a small box but was packaged well.
Value for Money: The bike offers incredible value for money. With the seatpost, bars, frame, and accessories all for around £550 delivered, it's hard to fault.
Ride Feel: The ride feel is subjective, but it feels planted and solid. I'm using Elite Edge 65mm wheels. While it’s not the quickest to get up to speed, it cruises better than my old SuperSix Evo. It’s a budget build, so there’s no power meter, but it seems quicker, possibly due to my extra effort to prove the aero benefits.
Attention-Grabbing: It turns heads and I’ve been able to outpace riders on bikes that cost five times as much.
General Comments
Handlebar: The handlebar is plenty stiff. Someone in the comments mentioned theirs was flexy, but I haven't experienced that.
Headset and Seatpost: I didn’t have any issues with the headset or seatpost slipping.
Cons
Cable Routing: The cable routing wasn’t easy. The handlebar has many sharp edges and limited space, making it a real challenge to get right.
Fork and Rear Triangle: The fork and rear triangle need to be stiffer. I don’t know if Hygge did this to help with compliance, but it’s not very confidence-inspiring. Adding some more carbon in these areas, even for the sake of 100g, would be beneficial.
Lack of EPS Molding: The down tube and top tube are pretty creased, although the headtube isn’t too bad. EPS molding would be a nice touch.
The total cost for the build was around £1250. The Elite wheels took 65 days to arrive, but I took advantage of Choice Day and got them for £365 delivered. The R9 shifters, which were £35, work well with Ultegra 8100. The only downside is the thumb shifters, which make it impossible to shift on the drops.

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So, turns out that lip is the limit line for the seatpost.. if you want the seatpost to go in further then you need to cut. I got it out, or i should say my LBS did.

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I've mostly finished my build and opted for mechanical shifting. In hindsight, I wish I'd invested a bit more in wireless, as the process turned out to be quite challenging. The handlebar holes were particularly difficult, and using a soft cable cover (neoprene) only created more issues. Now, I'm dealing with a seized seatpost. It seems there's excess carbon inside the seattube, forming a lip that initially prevented the seatpost from fitting properly. I managed to remove the lip by turning the bike upside down, but now the seatpost is stuck. I've tried WD-40 without success and gently tapped it with a mallet, but I'm concerned about damaging the frame or seatpost.

Any ideas?

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@c74 - this looks like a really nice build.  Two questions. How still is the rear triangle / fork combo? Also, did you manage to see what the inside of the frame is like - any sharp edges or excessive creases?

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I have a set of Winspace R33 23 edition wheels. The front wheel went out of alignment fairly quickly (within the first 300km). I visited my local bike shop, and they charged me £75 for the service. They had to remove the rim tape and reapply it, which is just so unnecessary.  I had to contact several bike shops, but none were willing to work on carbon spokes. In line with what Petr mentioned, dealing with this hassle isn't worth it. It's likely the same situation with one-piece carbon wheels. If I had been aware of the maintenance costs beforehand, I might have avoided these wheels altogether. Dealing with proprietary parts, expensive repairs, and unnecessary hassle is something I could do without.

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I have a pair of R9 2x11 shifters that I intend to match with an Ultegra R8000 front and rear setup. Opting for this combination was a budget-conscious decision that appeared to be the most sensible choice. Although I haven't completed the full build yet, my initial impressions are positive. Each shifter weighs 250g, and considering the price I paid (around £35), the quality of the rubber seems satisfactory. If everything functions as expected, this could be an effective money-saving strategy, but I cannot guarantee its long-term performance. I'll provide an update once the bike is fully assembled.

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Been a while since I built up a bike... not done an internally routed one before. Seems fairly straight forward but just wanted to check especially with those who have successfully built one of these.

The bike came with two teflon cables already inside the frame ( white cables) one for rear brake and rear mech, but not front mech and not front brake. They are just about long enough so the ends protrude out of each end of the hole - what's the deal with these. Are they to use as guides or can I use them as cable housing? They're not long enough to reach the bars so i'm a bit confused here. I could extend with a bit of compression less housing but this doesn't sit right with me.

Will the bars allow 2 x cable housing internally on each side? The inside seems a bit tight using RISK compressionles housing.

The exit holes for the rear mech and rear brake has no grommet. Is this right? Just seems a bit cheap...




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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: April 22, 2024, 03:18:03 AM »
@Wrighty, could you share your impressions of the carbon layup within the frame, as well as the stiffness of both the fork and rear triangle? I haven't assembled mine yet, and I'm debating whether to proceed or reconsider. I might be overly cautious, but I've noticed some flex in the fork (I'm 80kg, so not particularly heavy), and while I understand an axle will reinforce it, it's still a concern. Additionally, I've observed numerous sharp edges and creases within the frame, which doesn't inspire confidence.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: April 14, 2024, 02:55:46 AM »
I received my Model S last Friday (I opted to pay a bit more to avoid taxes), making it a total of 18 days from the order placement, which is quite reasonable. Initially, I was informed there would be an additional 5-day wait due to opting for a color that was out of stock. Here are my first impressions:

The rear triangle and fork don't seem to be the stiffest. This makes me wonder, especially since I have two other Chinese bikes that I've somewhat retired – one being a 2016 HM66 Hongfu and the other a 2017 Workswell endurance bike. I'm considering doing a comparison video and sharing it here. My usual ride is a 2018 Cannondale HM, which is noticeably stiffer, but then again, it was significantly more expensive.

The paint job is exceptional; it's hard to find any faults. The handlebar has surpassed my expectations; it's plenty stiff. There are definitely some rough edges inside the frame. I haven't finished building it yet, but I can feel some rough work between the top down tube and the head tube. The bottom bracket went on smoothly, the only component I've fitted so far.

I'm still waiting on some parts and pondering over the groupset. My plan is to build it with an Ultegra 11-speed mechanical groupset, as I didn't want to invest too much and see this more as a budget build, aiming for around £1200. I'll likely use a mix of Ltwoo R9 shifters, Ultegra R8000 & R8100 components, Elite wheels, etc. I'm not entirely sold on Chinese groupsets just yet.

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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Hygge Aero Carbon Frame
« on: March 31, 2024, 06:43:57 AM »
I spent a day umming and ahhing over which colourway to go with and after seeing your bike, I bit the bullet and ordered the same. I think my build will be exactly the same as yours except for I've opted for mechanical ultegra as my goal was to keep total build under £1200 which seem pretty mental given current bike prices.  My last build was a Supersix HM in 2018 so I'm keen to see how cheap Chinese bike frame compare to older high end stuff.

How is it holding up? Did you have any QC issues ( paint over spray, irregular or non concentric thru axle holes, seat post slipping?).

Also how does it ride? I get this is totally subjective but any feedback would be appreciated.


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My frame arrived on Friday and I built it up over the weekend.

First impressions are great, paint quality seems nice and internal finishing also looks nice.

Still waiting on Elitewheels Edge wheelset being delivered to finish properly.









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What's the general feeling towards ltwoo erx in spring 2024? I've been tempted to pull the trigger on a number of occasions but too many of the YT influencers saying it's not a finished product, has inherent problems etc ( maybe ltwoo aren't paying them enough to endorse). Aliexpress have a sale this week, never been a better time to buy however I value reliability over anything.

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