There are even more frames on rednote, mainly bike shops but also a few customers. But it is not that much, maybe around ~30. This bike shop in Singapur has the first one outside of china I believe.
Personally I got a response that they can ship my bike immediately, but not the right color. It takes only a few days, this was 1,5 weeks ago but now are national holidays. But yeah, the communication is still a mess and the delivery super slow... also they ship the bikes right now without garmin mount and the cockpit has a proprietary system, so u need to use zip ties...

Personally I am still in the game, because the refund via PayPal business is super easy, at least a few other guys pulled the plug and got easy their money back.
But tbh, my PayPal deadline is end of October

Overall, I can't recommend to order there, the stock situation and communication is a big pain

There was a 3D Print Prototyp back in August, so far nothing else.

http://xhslink.com/o/4tqFabzz96t

So, the (only China?) shipment definitely has started. There are now popping up some frames on rednote, mainly bike shops but it gets more every day.
Quality seems okay and not that bad paintjob like on some pictures from weeks ago for example. So far I found one shop which weighed the parts. As expected, it is definitely not the lightest but for the design with the external fork it is okay in my opinion.

Personally I don't get answers via Insta since 2 weeks, so that is a shame... also it looks like, the shipping just started in China. But yeah, at least there are now some real frames. For getting updates, I would recommend Rednote.

http://xhslink.com/o/2yOVG48nTFI

Quote from: alfiomotrambo on July 15, 2026, 02:55:10 AM
Hi guys! Any new updates on this?

So far nothing exciting, some facebook posts with the raw frames (Mira & Strada). Mira faw frame in 54 is 950grams acording to their scale. Shipping should start in August, but dont know if the first badge is just for china. Some dealer from singapur said, there will be an announcement on 20. july, we will see.

For following the company and the frame development, i recommend facebook but genereall informations are quite raw.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/975602387895509
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1481934963962804

Saw this on Facebook. It is from a Dealer from Singapur i think.
" Is this still gonna be a keeper? Many people are disappointed with the change, what about you? To me the price is still very attractive! I don't mind keeping it as a spare!
I heard the delivery timeline in china 🇨🇳 is slated to be in mid august! I hope aerofor is able to deliver everything on time 💪🏻 everyone is still rooting for you!!! Looking forward!!!
𝐀𝐥𝐥 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐟𝐨𝐫*
𝐒𝐢𝐳𝐞 𝟓𝟒,𝐬𝐚𝐝𝐝𝐥𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝟕𝟏𝐜𝐦
+~𝟔𝐦𝐦 𝐞𝐫𝐫𝐨𝐫
𝐅𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐝𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/975602387895509/permalink/1311249924330752/?locale=de_DE

Yeah, so the latest update is a raw carbon frame which is hopefully not the final versions. In the pictures you can see red arrows, which highlights defects or some other issues on the frame. Overall i think the frame still looks good, but this is the only positive thing. Delivery time is a big question mark and still no real feedback on the frame. But yeah, at least there a now some weekly updates.

Quote from: bsharp77 on July 03, 2026, 04:04:11 AM
Seen that this morning.
They really are the most baffling company.

100% my thought.
Got a answer 2 days ago, they said the changes on the mold needed more time as expected but now production has startet and shipping also soon. Whatever soon means...
But quite interesting, i didnot get the new pictures of the frame, but also not explicit asked for it.
Also they said the stiffness is great, higher as the ISO Standard. Last update i had, it was to high and now i am confused
So yeah, it is still a rollercoaster because from every source (Chinertown, Facebook, their Insta) you get a bit of information and need to combine it, to see the whole picture.

Tried it 2 days ago, so far nothing will wait till mid of July and after that, I maybe need to contact PayPal/visa

Had a chat with Pardus Europe via Insta and Mail in beginning of May. Price was 2999€ for the frameset and only the raw carbon/black and the black/white colour was available and think this is still the case. But i lost a bit the interest in this bike because 3k Euro is a lot.
Second, there are just 2 colours available via the dealer and i saw at least 10 on Tiktok etc, which i liked more but just for the asian market.
Third, i asked 3 times for specs/geo chart of this cockpit, because it has definitly some rise and and there are 2 options with different stack/angles. But never got a reply for that, just that Size S comes with 110mm stem if i remember it correctly...

So yeah, maybe a fast bike but not for me. Couldnot even finalize my size choice because with no information about the cockpit it is a gamble

Quote from: cccccccccccccccx on March 23, 2026, 08:30:44 AM
Leese 160 mm crankset, Leese spider, Shimano rings

I am also interested in the spider to pair it with my elilee crank, because i dont want to pay so much for the elilee Carbon Spider.
How is your experience with the spider so far? anything weird and you know the weight?
Thanks and best regards

Quote from: Chineseweaklegrider on June 18, 2026, 10:17:44 AM
Hope you could get the right frame for you buddy, as a Chinese I ofc want to be proud of national brands, but for those black listed brands, I can not keep the words in my mouth, I think telling the info I know is more important. So if we make the info gap smaller and you could make better decision.

Yeah 100%, thats why i try to share my experience also. It is quite funny that the bike is to stiff, normally it is not enough stiff but anyway. I was already told beginning of july, so we will see, what happens in a few weeks and if there is any progress or something else

Well, that are not good news and again some new information i dont got directly from them. I ordered the Mira end of mai and was told 45 days, so we will see, how it turns out...
What is more of a concern of mine, they changed now 3 times the geometry charts (mainly stack/reach) without telling me
1. Version from their pdf
2. Version from the product page on Cyclegears
3. Version from the product page on Ccache

Managed to switch my order to 48 instead of 51, because i benefited from the changes and the 48 is at least on paper now a better fit for me. But yeah, not good and dont know what to expect and what is the final geometry

But yeah, i still have some hope left and so far i profited from the geo change, if it is true

That's interesting, you know the two new Colours? I was told end of June/beginning of July my frame is ready to ship. Ordered via Insta

Quote from: abdbeg on May 28, 2026, 02:49:25 AM
Just my 2 cents, don't want to ruin this for anyone. When I saw the frame for the first time I was amazed and I really wanted to buy it, but as with everything, after the first love fades away you start to notice some weird things.

Firstly, I extremely disliked the seatpost tube. On their Taobao page (btw I attached screenshots) they claim that they got design inspiration from Pinarello and Factor, and the seat tube is an exact Pinarello replica, and it's so horrible it ruins the whole design for me. Pinarello's design is based on these absolutely unnecessary, ugly curves, which this bike doesn't have.

The second thing, the Chinese always like to play it safe. The bayonet fork is not as wide as Factor's, and the tire clearance, especially on the back, is all wrong. They have huge gaps which ruin aerodynamics; the gap is about 2–3 times bigger than Factor's. Overall, I can describe this bike as a Frankenstein that gathered everything from all over the place without really benefiting from anything.

But again, even this was okay, but I disliked their attitude toward the customer. Right now they have closed all orders—I found this out from the dealer. But they never replied to any of my messages on Instagram or WeChat, just completely ignoring me, which shows how they treat the customer. Paying $1k to a company that was created a few days ago where you don't know how the build quality is (I already saw some cracking of paint somewhere, can't remember where exactly). I am only writing this not to hate on this company, but just to share my opinion and experience.

Well, my Communication was also a bit tricky sometimes. A few days no answers and then in 2 Hours permanent online and it was like a phone call.

The Seatpost is true, but my hope is, with a 30mm tire the gap is not that big. I like the optics but yeah, it is a Mix of a lot of different Designs. My hope is, that i can get a really nice fit with the rise Cockpit, i put a lot of Effort in choosing the right size + stem combination.

But yeah, in the end is a a new brand I will see, how the bike is. But I wanted to try something new and the other Option was the new Pardus Bike. Bit with 3000 Dollar it is to expensive

Managed to finalize my order today after a few days delay with the PayPal link.
In the end I decided for size 51 with 120mm cockpit and the silver/white colour. Coming from a Scott foil in XS and 110 stem. 170cm if someone is interested.
Seatpost will be 15mm offset, don't think they will have the zero offset Seatpost in time. Priorities are getting the first batch ready hopefully till end of June.

Will keep you guys posted, first chine frame for me but my girlfriend had since last spring a QuickPro Er One

Quote from: Dan S. on May 21, 2026, 02:19:57 AM
May I ask for the final quoted price? Mainly curious about the shipping. I asked them about shipping to Czech Republic, but haven't had an answer yet. Thanks!

Like it their pdf, 1099 US Dollar for the Frameset and shipping is 200 for Europe with customs and fees included. But right now I don't get a reply, two days ago they wanted me to send the PayPal link. Think they are pretty busy and shipping starts end of June, at least they told me that