So, the (only China?) shipment definitely has started. There are now popping up some frames on rednote, mainly bike shops but it gets more every day.
Quality seems okay and not that bad paintjob like on some pictures from weeks ago for example. So far I found one shop which weighed the parts. As expected, it is definitely not the lightest but for the design with the external fork it is okay in my opinion.

Personally I don’t get answers via Insta since 2 weeks, so that is a shame… also it looks like, the shipping just started in China. But yeah, at least there are now some real frames. For getting updates, I would recommend Rednote.

http://xhslink.com/o/2yOVG48nTFI

Saw this on Facebook. It is from a Dealer from Singapur i think.
" Is this still gonna be a keeper? Many people are disappointed with the change, what about you? To me the price is still very attractive! I don’t mind keeping it as a spare!
I heard the delivery timeline in china 🇨🇳 is slated to be in mid august! I hope aerofor is able to deliver everything on time 💪🏻 everyone is still rooting for you!!! Looking forward!!!
𝐀𝐥𝐥 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐟𝐨𝐫*
𝐒𝐢𝐳𝐞 𝟓𝟒,𝐬𝐚𝐝𝐝𝐥𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝟕𝟏𝐜𝐦
+~𝟔𝐦𝐦 𝐞𝐫𝐫𝐨𝐫
𝐅𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐝𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭"
https://www.facebook.com/groups/975602387895509/permalink/1311249924330752/?locale=de_DE

Yeah, so the latest update is a raw carbon frame which is hopefully not the final versions. In the pictures you can see red arrows, which highlights defects or some other issues on the frame. Overall i think the frame still looks good, but this is the only positive thing. Delivery time is a big question mark and still no real feedback on the frame. But yeah, at least there a now some weekly updates.

Tried it 2 days ago, so far nothing will wait till mid of July and after that, I maybe need to contact PayPal/visa

Leese 160 mm crankset, Leese spider, Shimano rings

I am also interested in the spider to pair it with my elilee crank, because i dont want to pay so much for the elilee Carbon Spider.
How is your experience with the spider so far? anything weird and you know the weight?
Thanks and best regards

Well, that are not good news and again some new information i dont got directly from them. I ordered the Mira end of mai and was told 45 days, so we will see, how it turns out...
What is more of a concern of mine, they changed now 3 times the geometry charts (mainly stack/reach) without telling me
1. Version from their pdf
2. Version from the product page on Cyclegears
3. Version from the product page on Ccache

Managed to switch my order to 48 instead of 51, because i benefited from the changes and the 48 is at least on paper now a better fit for me. But yeah, not good and dont know what to expect and what is the final geometry

But yeah, i still have some hope left and so far i profited from the geo change, if it is true

Just my 2 cents, don't want to ruin this for anyone. When I saw the frame for the first time I was amazed and I really wanted to buy it, but as with everything, after the first love fades away you start to notice some weird things.

Firstly, I extremely disliked the seatpost tube. On their Taobao page (btw I attached screenshots) they claim that they got design inspiration from Pinarello and Factor, and the seat tube is an exact Pinarello replica, and it's so horrible it ruins the whole design for me. Pinarello's design is based on these absolutely unnecessary, ugly curves, which this bike doesn't have.

The second thing, the Chinese always like to play it safe. The bayonet fork is not as wide as Factor's, and the tire clearance, especially on the back, is all wrong. They have huge gaps which ruin aerodynamics; the gap is about 2–3 times bigger than Factor's. Overall, I can describe this bike as a Frankenstein that gathered everything from all over the place without really benefiting from anything.

But again, even this was okay, but I disliked their attitude toward the customer. Right now they have closed all orders—I found this out from the dealer. But they never replied to any of my messages on Instagram or WeChat, just completely ignoring me, which shows how they treat the customer. Paying $1k to a company that was created a few days ago where you don't know how the build quality is (I already saw some cracking of paint somewhere, can't remember where exactly). I am only writing this not to hate on this company, but just to share my opinion and experience.

Well, my Communication was also a bit tricky sometimes. A few days no answers and then in 2 Hours permanent online and it was like a phone call.

The Seatpost is true, but my hope is, with a 30mm tire the gap is not that big. I like the optics but yeah, it is a Mix of a lot of different Designs. My hope is, that i can get a really nice fit with the rise Cockpit, i put a lot of Effort in choosing the right size + stem combination.

But yeah, in the end is a a new brand I will see, how the bike is. But I wanted to try something new and the other Option was the new Pardus Bike. Bit with 3000 Dollar it is to expensive

May I ask for the final quoted price? Mainly curious about the shipping. I asked them about shipping to Czech Republic, but haven’t had an answer yet. Thanks!

Like it their pdf, 1099 US Dollar for the Frameset and shipping is 200 for Europe with customs and fees included. But right now I don’t get a reply, two days ago they wanted me to send the PayPal link. Think they are pretty busy and shipping starts end of June, at least they told me that