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I just asked for an update. They updated the chainstay, so it will take another month.
They say my size M with raw finish will be ready at the end of September for the custom paint.

Did you ask what the chainstay update was? Hopefully to make bigger clearance - so one maybe can fit 2.1" tires?

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I'm also a bit confounded by the geo, coming from a road background. 183cm, 76ish cm seat height -- ride a 56 road race frame with a slammed, long stem, but not sure how this progressive geo on gravel translates.. is the idea to go for a much shorter stem and have similar Reach+, to use the Canyon parlance?

All depends on what/how you ride. Usually you tend to have a bit more total stack on Gravel and either same or a wee bit less reach. This because it is easier to control on bad roads, then you usually want to sit a bit more upright. The most important part is maybe where you tend to ride the bike 😀
But yes, gravel bikes usually have longer front center, so you usually need a bit shorter stem. And also, it gets a bit easier to control the front tire with a bit shorter stem. 70-100mm is quite common - some as short as 60mm, but it depends on the frame.

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It looks that there is a new upgraded version of leoseek power meter

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQFJSvo

Nice with more than 100% price hike, compared to old version though ::)
That price and there are certainly better ones available.

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Geometry Wise this is most close to the XMCS Gravel frame. 5mm longer chainstay, 5mm longer fork. But other alngles seem to almost line up exactly like the XMCS.
This one may be interesting, since it will certainly be cheaper and more clearance than the LCG072 which i was eyeing before. Only thing for me is that i have to find good integrated handlebars with 70mm stem, or go with separate bar and stem.

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Was going to order this one but cannot decide how to do. Geometry is perfect for me - but i dont know about sizes.. Medium got almost to small front-center, only around 600mm, so maybe risk of toe overlap?
While large got fairly high seat tube, so it will probably be quite a bit less comfort and taller standover height...
So i have not decided yet. Also maybe waiting before someone gets the frame and can check clearance for tires first.

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I'm also considering these, but in really interested in the TiX Aero spokes option. Service wide they will probably be better, especially if one buys a few spare spokes. They will not be as stiff, and Zen first told me CX-RAY is better for road wheelset, but then i told them that im only 69kg weight, and they said that they will work fine for me.
As i have understood Ti stretches kind a bit more than steel.
So im really considering Ti as a serious option... I got a little bit off about carbon spokes after i saw Pandapodium test of Ti polymer spokes on youtube. This is what kind of turned me back to either CX-RAY, Alpina hyperlite or these new TiX Aero spokes.

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Any chance the Rise handlebars will be made in 70mm stem length also?

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Let’s wait for the first batch to be sent & built and we’ll see whatbthe real MAX tiree clearance is.

Usually 50mm max tire clearance advertised means 52 to 54mm possible

Yea, i will also wait for this. Would want to fit thunder burt 2.1's but not need any more than that.
So if those are possible to fit - with OK clearance i will go for this frame. If it really is max 50mm, WAM... then i'm don't know how i'll do.
The other thing to consider is - what is appropriate clearance according to Lightcarbon? I would say 6mm on each side at WAM should be a standard. Even more (1.5cm min?) above in the fork.

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Coming Soon – VaporLite II 60 mm

Following customer feedback and the growing trend towards wider road tyres, we’ve been working on a new 60 mm VaporLite II rim profile, designed primarily around 30–32 mm tyres.

Our design focuses on balancing aerodynamic performance, excellent crosswind stability, stiffness, and consistent manufacturing, while maintaining a 120 kg rider/system weight limit.

Current target specifications:

60 mm depth
25 mm internal width
30.6 mm external width at the tyre bed
36.3 mm maximum width
Target rim weight: 385 g

Estimated wheelset weights VaporLite Ultra:

Carbon Spokes Bladed 3.1mm (Optional Spoke widths 3.25 / 4.5 / 5.1 & 5.9mm. Hidden Spoke Nipples 3.2 & 5.2mm all available upon Request)

1,069 g ±30 g – Paired with our new ZC-215Rc hub (215 g), replacing our previous lightest hub. ZC235Rc 20F 20R
1,089 g ±30 g – ZC235Rc 2024 (235 g, 20F/24R).
1,099 g ±30 g – ZC245RC (245 g, 24F 24R).

Estimated wheelset weights VaporLite Pro:

Carbon Spokes Bladed 3.1mm (Optional Spoke widths 3.25 / 4.5 / 5.1 & 5.9mm Available upon Request)

1,129 g ±30 g – ZC270Rc hub (276 g  2oF/24R)
1,149 g ±30 g – ZC288Rc (288 g, 20F/24R).


Titanuim Spokes

1,179 g ±30 g – ZC40RcS (240 g, 24F 24R).

Steel Spokes


1,339 g ±30 g – ZC40RcS (240 g, 24F 24R) Pillar 1423
1,249 g ±30 g – ZC40RcS (240 g, 24F 24R) Sapim CX Ray (Stainless Steel Colour now also avaibalbe)
1,199 g ±30 g – ZC40RcS (240 g, 24F 24R) Alpina Hyperlight

Estimated current timeline for the rim to be available to order is approximately 25 days — around 22nd July.


18-Spoke Hub Update

A couple of weeks ago we announced our new 18-spoke front/rear hub, weighing approximately 250 g. Testing of the hub has now officially begun, with the test report expected within the next week or two.

When paired with the original VaporLite rim, we’re currently targeting a 100 kg rider/system weight limit. We’ll share the full test results and final specifications once testing has been completed. This hub will be available across most of our road rim ranges

As always, we’d love to hear your thoughts and feedback on the new products.

On the 50mm VaporLite II there was three different layups (the ones below)... will there be the same on these 60mm? What do you expect Race layup to weight?
Also these will be possible to order as 20F/24R(Carbon spokes) and 24F/24R(Steel/titanium) spoke configuration?

Extreme Ultralight: 350 g, Rider weight limit 120 kg, Impact test rating 110 J

Race Layup: 380 g, Rider weight limit 120 kg, Impact test rating 110 J

Heavy-Duty Layup: 410 g, Rider weight limit 130 kg, Impact test rating 120 J


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Top headset bearing is 8mm 52/40 - but is it 36/45 deg or 45/45 deg?
Is the headset compression ring included good, or is there any reason to swap for a FSA in aluminum?

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Look the Zen wheels thread, they recently posted these new wheels which seems like what you were asking for:
 https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,6093.msg112956.html#msg112956

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Not possible that the rise handlebars will also be available in 70mm reach? That would make this frame also working for me 😊

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oh, great. Hopefully we get a full test from @GPLama soon then  ;)

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Hopefully they release it with the upcoming Eurobike or something like that. Does anyone know if Lightcarbon does custom logos?

they do, for a cost.

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Kinda would like this U-shaped design, but with 26mm or max 27mm IW and then about 38mm OW at the widest part of the rim.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012068359058.html


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