I have a size ML of the allrounder frame called APX here at home and will build it up after my annual leave.

Most focus and interest have been on the VRT and GRT until now. I’m sure Peter will share a timeline of the APX.

It’s not forgotten.

I’m happy to read this. I’m holding out for the APX.

I was considering this frameset a while back.
Price was the deal breaker for me. For under 1k USD I’d be interested in it.

This is exactly how I feel

Hey everyone,
I recently heard about the Kozo 1 on the Nero shows dog or fast bike segment. They rated it a fast bike for what it’s worth.
Despite lurking these forums for a while I had never heard of this brand/model. I did a search and nothing came up. Supposedly they are the OEM, but who knows.
The specs are decent, T800 (1100g frame only- heavier than I would like), T47 BB, 32mm tires clearance. I like the overall look, especially the hourglass headtube.
To me the back half of the bike looks similar to the VeloVoice or TanTan x38, with a distinctly different headtube/fork area.
From my communications with them on WhatsApp the price is good ($610 shipped to the US with tariffs covered).

I’m not able to find any real reviews of this frame and just wanted to see if there’s anyone here who has any experience with this frame specifically, or the brand in general?
Thank you!

https://www.instagram.com/kozobike?igsh=MXZ2dDdxa2ZtczR3Zw==

That looks great

If you have to deal with shipping, I strongly advise against DHL, the fees that go with the tariffs were astronomical. I paid a total of $150 for $300 worth of CNC metal parts. The same order, through FedEx and UPS, was a $15 fee plus $50-$60 in tariffs, and the rates remained unchanged during that time.

I recently purchased an LTK266-D-SL, and the tariffs and shipping costs were quite reasonable through UPS. ~$200 together. However, all carriers now require the Tax ID of the consignee (importer) before they accept shipment. If you are a business and have already taken precautions, supplying your EIN is fine, as it's already required for many purposes. However, if you don't have an EIN or ITN, you need to supply your SSN. The benefit of this shipping method is that it's fast. 2-4 days is typical.

Because AliExpress and prepaid duty shippers typically use a 3PL (usually paired with a shell company) to take custody of their products before reshipping, you don't need to supply a Tax ID. This should be cheaper and safer for most customers.

Thank you for this information!

Hey guys, I’m reviving this thread to see if anyone in the US has purchased a frame through AliExpress since the tariffs were enacted.
The frame I am interested in is ~$300 more on AliExpress vs the direct website, but they claim that the price includes shipping, taxes and import charges.
Does anyone have any experience with this and can say if it’s legit?
It would be nice to have the tariffs covered upfront so I don’t have to worry what it might cost upon arrival but I’m highly skeptical.

Thank you in advance for any help!!