I just stumbled across this thread.

Is the TTX68 from Tantan or the SL8 version from Airwolf the "better" frame, geometry is the same, I'm just curious with which of these two frame to go, from which of those two sellers I can expect the better frame in general?

Or should I go with a LCR017 from Lightcarbon which has a very similar geometry and is not like a direct copy of a brand frame but more like heavily inspired by the SuperSix

I'd personally pick TanTan over Airwolf 9/10 times.

The LCR017 is also pretty good from what I've seen and heard, don't think you can really go wrong with it if you like the look.

They do. For some odd reason they chose not to show them in the pics.

The reason isn't odd, it's to make the uninitiated people buy the product because it looks just like a regular set of shifters on the pictures

It's been for sale for like a week

if I wanted a light allround bike, this is what I would go for. But I will be waiting on the ER:One. Probably coming sometime in Q2 2025, based on the AR:One development-to-release cycle

Yeah, my bad. I was reading a response to the ER:One. So to correct myself, the AR:One should be available for purchase right now.

Joe just posted a new video showcasing a pretty interesting frame.

Looks like another competitor to the SL7/8, albeit quite a bit cheaper. Still expensive at ~2k USD, but it is a true monocoque frame, UCI certified etc. Not yet available to purchase.

This is very interesting and definitely opened my eyes on how far cheap alloy frames have gotten lately… If only it was a little bit lighter, something like the Emonda ALR for example… I’d be all over it.

Definitely update us OP, I am very interested to see what the bike ends up looking like!

Can recommend Peter from carbonspeed. So easy to talk to. I even changed my rims after the initial purchase (thanks to Serge trend guidelines:) ) Ordered 50depth/33wide wheels with in house hub, cx ray spokes and brass nipples (no alu nipples on my wheels, ever). Hubs are ratchet and I'm 100% sure theyre not gonna cause any issues, as I run 3 of those on my mtb's. Now just time game

And yea, wheels are really cheap for what youre getting.

I am still in the process of figuring out what I want to buy from where, may I know what was a rough price of your wheelset? Just so I have a point of reference for comparison sake.

The frame is also available on tantan's website: http://tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=1160

Certainly interesting, not super sure how I feel about but I do like the look of the SL8 and wouldn't mind picking this frame up