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thanks everyone for the suggestions. actually stumbled on this comment https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,5285.msg66449.html#msg66449 the other day and reached out to the various oems as I can wait a bit. xcs doesn't seem to have what I am after, waiting to hear back from farsports and yuanan and for light bicycle: based on the builder on the site I am getting roughly $860 without shipping for the ar55s with house hubs and 1420 spokes. does that seem correct for pricing?
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Last post by volan on Today at 01:32:20 AM »

It's possible to use other bars with most of VB's frames either integrated or separate bar/stem combos with either hidden or exposed cables. In the case of the 268 I think you just loose out on the top tube cover which is shaped to match the frame and would just need to find something appropriate that can fit. Seems like theres lots of headset covers/spacers available on aliX that would do the job.

Thanks for answering. However, I wonder why do I need to loose the VBs cover and spacers, is the shape of the handlebar stem the reason? Would it be possible to just swap the bars?
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Component Deals & Selection / Re: AliX Triathlon seat
« Last post by BeR on Today at 12:24:59 AM »
Are triathletes still using these ISM saddles? I thought they'd gone out of style. These, second hand, a easy to find.
On AliX, i've bought several saddles, like fizik knock offs w a short nose and a relief channel, which is usually what you want to be in aero position. The 3d printed saddles so popular now also have that design, to a large extent (wide frontal area with a relief channel).
I've bought various saddles and sold the ones i didnt agree with, if you buy the heavy versions, they're usually super cheap, so you can experiment with what you get along with best for cheap. There's no 1 saddle fits all, anatomic differences, as even the bib itself can turn a great saddle into a bad one. Too many variables to have a gold standard, afaik.

Yes, no problem but It is quiet heavy. Be careful when choosing width.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: Power meter suggestions for T47bb bike
« Last post by Serge_K on November 22, 2024, 11:59:13 PM »
Purely anecdotal, but I'm still rocking my Garmin vector 2 single sided after yeaaaaars of use. Road platform obviously.
Are you sure you will continue to use MTB pedals for road? I guess if you use carbon soles it matters less, but the road platform is wider and feels nicer.
I really like pedal based power meters. You can travel with one pedal, have different bikes, if you want to upgrade bikes, you're not leaving money on the table. Your power readings are always consistent because you use the same device.
I suspect that crank based power meter hype is in part due to groupset manufacturers wanting to charge top dollar for their stuff, and saying "loooook, it's got a power meter, so ofc it costs 5k".
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Component Deals & Selection / Re: Chinese cycling clothes
« Last post by Serge_K on November 22, 2024, 11:53:11 PM »
Got one of these cheap base layers and they are heavy! compared to something legit like cutaway.
still works but meh.

Please quantify. The thought of weighing jerseys and choosing them based on weight never crossed my mind
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Last post by Serge_K on November 22, 2024, 11:46:51 PM »
Why the hate of aluminum nips?

Corrosion. Brass nipples weigh a tad more but don't corrode. Most would be best served using brass nipples, for optionality. In lots of "if" scenarios, brass wins. The only benefit of alu nipples is weight.
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Last post by Serge_K on November 22, 2024, 11:44:06 PM »
Long Teng now blamed the excessive paint on the edge of the cover  and downtube that prevent the cover to be locked securely, want me to use a rasp to grind off the excessive paint on the edge along the cover and the downtube opening  >:(

It's an OEM frame that does zero marketing, you're not dealing with Trek. I really doubt they developed a frame with a closing mechanism that doesn't work, starting with the fact that argon 18 has had these things on their frames for years (I have a friend with a TT bike from them and it's got such box too).
So, I don't think it's unreasonable to use a jewellery file or sand paper to grind some paint. I bought a whole set of jewellery files because frames often need some work to facilitate routing, bars especially, it's standard practice really.
If you use sand paper or a soft sanding block, you can easily grind off paint following contours. Any DIY shop will have these and they should cost 3 bucks. If you don't want to use sandpaper, get a Trek :)
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: New frame: Longteng RD301-D
« Last post by kwantani on November 22, 2024, 11:06:37 PM »
that video shown nothing.
Try to mount a bottle cage to the cover, then insert of water bottle that's fully filled. Try insert and pull out the water bottle repeatedly to/from the cage (this is real world usage), see if the cover doesn't fell off.                                                 

See my earlier post with video that demo how easy to lost the cover.

Because I ordered the frame, I asked to Alisa about is my frame free from the downtube storage cover issue.

And the attached video was the answer from her.

Does it look fine?
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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Last post by hazzer19 on November 22, 2024, 10:24:46 PM »
I'm wondering the same. Would be really cool if somebody could share their experience with mounting another handlebar on the frame


It's possible to use other bars with most of VB's frames either integrated or separate bar/stem combos with either hidden or exposed cables. In the case of the 268 I think you just loose out on the top tube cover which is shaped to match the frame and would just need to find something appropriate that can fit. Seems like theres lots of headset covers/spacers available on aliX that would do the job.
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Component Deals & Selection / Re: AliX Triathlon seat
« Last post by ejump0 on November 22, 2024, 10:04:55 PM »
I have the AliEx ism pl1.1 (it has '40' logo) and its been ok.
however i think the plastic shell is kinda on softer side as it flexes (aliex ver only?).
you however only feel the sinking in if you sit in the middle of the saddle. sitting on nose would be fine
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