Author Topic: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro  (Read 8559 times)

KingLex

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2024, 07:58:24 AM »
Received my frame
I have sram wide crankset, 44t chainring doesn't fit. For the moment I have the 40t chainring on but will order a 42t.
Picture is with the 40t chainring

gofasterstripes

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2024, 08:47:59 AM »
Received my frame
I have sram wide crankset, 44t chainring doesn't fit. For the moment I have the 40t chainring on but will order a 42t.
Picture is with the 40t chainring

Have you tried to use spacers with the 44 tooth chainring, that may solve the issue?

what size tyres have you fitted they look quite chunky?

LittleBobcat

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2024, 09:39:49 AM »
Received my frame
I have sram wide crankset, 44t chainring doesn't fit. For the moment I have the 40t chainring on but will order a 42t.
Picture is with the 40t chainring
you may read about the sram crank installation manual. iirc you have to use a 2.5mm spacer on left & a 5.5mm on right for wide/t47-85.5 combination which will bring out the CL to 47.5mm. it would be unlikely for a 44t wide ring to interfere with the chainstay.

KingLex

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2024, 09:54:05 AM »
I only used the spacers that were provided, 2.5mm non drive, 5.5mm drive side.
Tyres are 44mm Tufo Thundero, they measure 45mm and I have about 6mm space left between tyre and chainstay
« Last Edit: June 18, 2024, 10:08:05 AM by KingLex »

TidyDinosaur

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2024, 10:09:33 AM »
Received my frame
I have sram wide crankset, 44t chainring doesn't fit. For the moment I have the 40t chainring on but will order a 42t.
Picture is with the 40t chainring

Do you really need a 44T? I have a 36T chainring on my gravel bike.

gofasterstripes

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2024, 10:33:24 AM »
I only used the spacers that were provided, 2.5mm non drive, 5.5mm drive side.
Tyres are 44mm Tufo Thundero, they measure 45mm and I have about 6mm space left between tyre and chainstay

thanks, I quickly fitted my gravel wheels with 42mm pathfinders and there is loads of room

It might be worth playing around with the spacers and adding another 2-3mm to the drive side and seeing if it works ok. I've . It seems pretty common for the pro riders to fit 46t chainrings or 52-36 road cranks on bikes that were designed around grx chainsets. I looked at the giant revolts after seeing their riders do this but couldn't get confirmation from Giant how they spaced them to achieve this.

I'll have a play about with my frame and crankset and let you know how I get on

KingLex

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2024, 06:06:09 AM »
Do you really need a 44T? I have a 36T chainring on my gravel bike.

The "Graro" will replace my old road and gravelbike
On the road bike I had 50/34 with 11-28 cassette, On the gravelbike a 38t with 11-36 cassette.
I now have a wheelset with 10-36 for road and 11-44 for gravel (gravel wheelset had shimano body)
When looking at gearcharts the 44t seemed to give me the same gears I had on my previous bikes.
Will try the 42t first, don't really want to be messing around with spacers.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2024, 06:11:28 AM by KingLex »

gofasterstripes

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2024, 09:45:19 AM »
The "Graro" will replace my old road and gravelbike
On the road bike I had 50/34 with 11-28 cassette, On the gravelbike a 38t with 11-36 cassette.
I now have a wheelset with 10-36 for road and 11-44 for gravel (gravel wheelset had shimano body)
When looking at gearcharts the 44t seemed to give me the same gears I had on my previous bikes.
Will try the 42t first, don't really want to be messing around with spacers.
were you not tempted to set up your bike 2x .

I know a lot depends on local terrain and the type of riding you do but I've really enjoyed using my cross bike with a 46-36 chainset rather than the 38 tooth 1x st up I have for cx races which surprised me to be honest.

KingLex

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2024, 10:22:18 AM »
were you not tempted to set up your bike 2x .


Not really, my mind was set on 1x for this build.
I'm stuck for now, waiting on chainring so I can finish the bike. Only need to install chainring, chain and bar tape.

gofasterstripes

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2024, 10:35:33 AM »
Not really, my mind was set on 1x for this build.
I'm stuck for now, waiting on chainring so I can finish the bike. Only need to install chainring, chain and bar tape.

Nice build ....is that a custom colour?

chainrings aside did you have any major issues when putting it together?

where did you get the cover plate for the front derailleur cable hole or is that just an optical illusion

Apart from a headset I've just ordered all the parts I need to make a start putting mine together

KingLex

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2024, 11:27:35 AM »
It's the "celeste" colorway.
No issue's, one of the easiest builds I have ever done. Only had to route brake cables as I'm running sram axs.
One thing I also need to do is tighten the bottom bracket a little more. Didn't have the right tool for this.
Cover plate is from aliexpress, but isn't the right size. I had to cut it to fit, it will do for now. I also put a plug in the rear derailleur hole.

gofasterstripes

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2024, 12:34:50 PM »
It's the "celeste" colorway.
No issue's, one of the easiest builds I have ever done. Only had to route brake cables as I'm running sram axs.
One thing I also need to do is tighten the bottom bracket a little more. Didn't have the right tool for this.
Cover plate is from aliexpress, but isn't the right size. I had to cut it to fit, it will do for now. I also put a plug in the rear derailleur hole.

Ah, on the drop down mention on Ican's website white.

I wonder if this kit from Scott will work
https://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/addict_gravel_cable_guide_kit_(2022)-9164.

I just need to get my head around all the different types of internal headsets and got one ordered. I like the look of the token S-box, I just need to check with Orro that it will work ok.

I'll be popping over to the bike shop to get the BB and chainset torqued

KingLex

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2024, 06:23:02 AM »

It might be worth playing around with the spacers and adding another 2-3mm to the drive side and seeing if it works ok. I've .

Small update, 42t chainring on backorder, installed 44t again with 2mm spacer.
I am thinking of ordering a 44t Pass Quest chainring, it has 3mm offset. I believe Sram has 6mm offset, so Pass Quest should work without spacer ?

And some pics as road set up, those are 28mm Michelin PowerCup tyres but measure 30mm

Some bike info:
ICAN HBG01 handlebar 420x110
ICAN Aero 52 WD wheelset
Sram Apex shifters, brake, chain, crankset
Sram Force Rear derailleur
Sram Paceline 160mm rotors
Sram XG 1250 10-36 cassette
Elite Leggero Carbon bottlecages
Selle Italia Flite Boost Gravel TI 316 saddle
Look Kéo Blade carbon pedals
OG-EVKIN CM-005 Carbon Computer Mount (the wahoo insert was really tight and a part broke off, replaced it with another insert I had lying around, I hope the mount itself is of beter quality)
ZTTO chain guide (never had a dropped chain on my previous gravel bike except my last race  where it happened twice, that bike had Apex mechanical groupset)
Weight: 8.45kg (with Wahoo Bolt v2 installed)
« Last Edit: June 22, 2024, 08:06:15 AM by KingLex »

gofasterstripes

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2024, 08:09:29 AM »
Small update, 42t chainring on backorder, installed 44t again with 2mm spacer.
I am thinking of ordering a 44t Pass Quest chainring, it has 3mm offset. I believe Sram has 6mm offset, so Pass Quest should work without spacer ?

And some pics as road set up, those are 28mm Michelin PowerCup tyres but measure 30mm

Some bike info:
ICAN HBG01 handlebar 420x110
ICAN Aero 52 WD wheelset
Sram Apex shifters, brake, chain, crankset
Sram Force Rear derailleur
Sram Paceline 160mm rotors
Sram XG 1250 10-36 cassette
Elite Leggero Carbon bottlecages
Selli Italia Flite Boost Gravel TI 316 saddle
Look Kéo Blade carbon pedals
OG-EVKIN CM-005 Carbon Computer Mount (the wahoo insert was really tight and a part broke off, replaced it with another insert I had lying around, I hope the mount itself is of beter quality)
ZTTO chain guide (never had a dropped chain on my previous gravel bike except my last race  where it happened twice, that bike had Apex mechanical groupset)
Weight: 8.45kg (with Wahoo Bolt v2 installed)

Very nice,have you been out for a ride on it, if so what were your first impressions?

I remember the 3mm offset SRAM chainrings being mentioned on the WW giant revolt thread, it might be worth having a look if you haven't already.

I'll be using a P2Max power meter on a rotor crank set from my road bike.I'm hoping to be able to leave the 52-36 chainrings on , mainly as I want to leave my TCX set up as is so I can compare the 2 bikes and dial my fit in before I sell the TCX frameset.

Fingers cross all the parts will be hear by Monday so I can start building it up

KingLex

Re: New Gravel Frame Ican Graro
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2024, 11:14:16 AM »
Very nice,have you been out for a ride on it, if so what were your first impressions?


Did a short 1h ride on the road and I have no complaints so far. I felt comfortable in every position on the handlebar. I did a cobbled section and I survived  :)
The Graro is about 600gr heavier dan my previous roadbike, not that I really noticed, and will be a bit lighter dan my previous gravelbike.