Tarmac SL7 "copies" post pictures and weight of yours :)

[eucalyptus]

In my opinion, the real S-works tarmac SL7 is one of the most incredible and prettiest bike frames there is.   

While searching for something similar I have realized that there are a dozen different copies with the same geometry but under different names and specifications.

The BXT 115 with a round seatpost, Velobuild 168, Trifox X18, TFSA JH-033 and probably a few more that I missed. 

Most of them are marketed as T1000 carbon which I doubt and they are all quite heavy, some are on par with the original Specialized Tarmac SL7 Fact 10R.

But please post pictures of yours, weight (and spec) and please share your experience   

Cheers!

[eucalyptus]

I am talking to this seller from TFSA (which I never heard of before and they are new on Aliexpress) in case they could fix a custom version for me without shifter holes and raw carbon from the mould.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003099890350.html?pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22:%2212000024086326303%22,%22ship_from%22:%22CN%22%7D&gps-id=pcStoreJustForYou&scm=1007.23125.137358.0&scm_id=1007.23125.137358.0&scm-url=1007.23125.137358.0&pvid=9d8c7f65-e52d-46a4-aa22-c9fb9fcfce03&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartJustForYou_6001726214177.0

As the seller did not have a headset to use a regular stem...
This starts me thinking if it is possible to use a genuine Tarmac SL7 headset and even maybe a genuine Fact 12R fork. There are no forks on the internet, but perhaps it could be ordered as a spare part through LBS.

Darimo seatpost? Understanding from the Velobuild 168 thread, Velobuild had a slightly different shape to their seatpost making it impossible to fit a Darimo or a genuine SL7 post. Is it the same for all "copy" frames?

[StiffWeenies]

I am talking to this seller from TFSA (which I never heard of before and they are new on Aliexpress) in case they could fix a custom version for me without shifter holes and raw carbon from the mould.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003099890350.html?pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22:%2212000024086326303%22,%22ship_from%22:%22CN%22%7D&gps-id=pcStoreJustForYou&scm=1007.23125.137358.0&scm_id=1007.23125.137358.0&scm-url=1007.23125.137358.0&pvid=9d8c7f65-e52d-46a4-aa22-c9fb9fcfce03&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartJustForYou_6001726214177.0

As the seller did not have a headset to use a regular stem...
This starts me thinking if it is possible to use a genuine Tarmac SL7 headset and even maybe a genuine Fact 12R fork. There are no forks on the internet, but perhaps it could be ordered as a spare part through LBS.

Darimo seatpost? Understanding from the Velobuild 168 thread, Velobuild had a slightly different shape to their seatpost making it impossible to fit a Darimo or a genuine SL7 post. Is it the same for all "copy" frames?

IIRC TFSA is the OEM behind brands like Sava, Twitter and Delihea

Rather than being a simple purveyor of generic frames like most open mould brands, TFSA is a bit different because they got their start making literal fake frames. In terms of general credibility and quality, I'd rate TFSA below the average open mould brand. There is no guarantee that tolerance critical OEM parts (especially seatposts) will fit either because although they may appear close, dimensions will never be truly 1:1 since they're not working off the same factory mould.

[eucalyptus]

IIRC TFSA is the OEM behind brands like Sava, Twitter and Delihea

Rather than being a simple purveyor of generic frames like most open mould brands, TFSA is a bit different because they got their start making literal fake frames. There is no guarantee that tolerance critical OEM parts (especially seatposts) will fit either because although they may appear close, dimensions will never be truly 1:1 since they're not working off the same factory mould.

You never stop surprising me, like a thick bible with answers to everything and incredibly valuable knowledge! You are amazing!!!! 

TFSA have a website saying they are like 600 employees on 10 000 square meters and with just recently open aliexpress shop I could imagine that factory producing frames under a variety of different names.


Perhaps Darimo or Berk could custom make a lighter seatpost if I send them one of the Chinese ones  Still curious if a original fork is possible