Buying 29er full suspension

[BecH]

Hello

Im new to this forum, but i looks like the place to go for advice about china frame.

I am looking for a 29 inch full suspension frame. I think the market is vastly confusing. There are an incredible number very similar frames at similar prices.

Initial question
1. Are frames Coming from the same factory?
2. If they do not all come from the same factory which manufacturer produced as the best OEM China frame?
3. Is it best yo by from ebay or directly from the manufacturer?


requirements
I have the following requirements.
1. UD matt finish
2. 142x12 through axel
3. Taperd head tube.
4. As much internal cabel as possible.
The following is not a requirements but a big plus.
5. 165mm rear shock (So I can reuse the one I have now)
6. direct mount front derailleur (The plan is to run 1x11, but it's nice to have the option)
7. BB92 buttom bracket (To get a newer standard.)

Options
I've looked at the following since it has a reasonable price and meets most of my requirements.
http://hongfu-bikes.en.alibaba.com/product/1468028135-213714322/29er_Full_suspension_Carbon_Frame_Disc_Brake.html
or
http://www.xmcarbonspeed.com/Productinfo.asp?f=1295
or
http://www.yoeleobike.com/29er-frame-carbon-mtb-suspension.html

But then i found this. I like the frame design and maby 27.5" is ok. Im 179Cm tall, maby 27,5" is the right wheel size for me.
http://uis-carbon.en.alibaba.com/product/787861442-219249352/Chinese_carbon_full_suspension_27_5er_frame_MTB_650B_full_suspension_27_5er_frame.html

But then there's also this one. I'm not particularly liking the design, but maybe it's a better frame.
http://www.carbonality.com/titan-29er-suspention-mtb-frame.html
or
http://www.dengfubikes.com/product/detail.php?id=195 But i live in a flat contry, so most riding is Cross contry.

Other suggestions are more then welcome?

Size
What frame size should i go for, now i use 18" or 18,5" but many of these frames are 17,5" and jume to 19". Im 179cm tall.

Wheel

I'm still not sure I buying OEM carbon wheels. But if I do I'll also need some help here.

There are many different width, height, hole number, etc.
What to choose?

It's a mix between Cross contry and trail riding.
It should be tubeless

I really there is somone who can help and share their experiences.

[Oolak]

I think you'd find that you'll get more help if you do a bit more research on your own and then come back with more specific questions. That said, I'll see if I can fill in a few of those knowledge gaps:

1. Are frames Coming from the same factory?

I think they most likely all come from 2-3 big factories.

2. If they do not all come from the same factory which manufacturer produced as the best OEM China frame?

Regardless of whether or not they all come from the same factory or not, as far as I know, there isn't a certain seller or manufacturer that is known within the community as provided a higher quality/better/more durable carbon. If that does exist then said seller manufacturer has done a very poor job of marketing that fact. Either way, there is no community consensus preferring the quality of one seller over the other. It usually comes down to price and service.

3. Is it best yo by from ebay or directly from the manufacturer?

Again, it comes down to price and service. To me, I wouldn't want to buy from ebay because I don't have any idea of the sellers rep. That said, lots of people go the ebay route with success. The buyers you linked to are who I'd personally go with. Hongfu, Carbon Speed, Carbonal, Iplay, Yoeleo, Dengfu, have all been around for a while and have built up decent reps.

1. UD matt finish
2. 142x12 through axel
3. Taperd head tube.
4. As much internal cabel as possible.
The following is not a requirements but a big plus.
5. 165mm rear shock (So I can reuse the one I have now)
6. direct mount front derailleur (The plan is to run 1x11, but it's nice to have the option)
7. BB92 buttom bracket (To get a newer standard.)

The 27.5 frame on Alibaba that you linked to is new to me... Never seen it before. Didn't even know they made a chiner with that type of suspension design. So I can't really say much about it. If you decide you want to go 27.5 then i personally like the one linked from Dengfu, the fm288, a lot better. just basing that on snap judgement though. The Carbonal Titan seems like a pretty sweet frame but isn't as popular as some of the other options and so less is known about it overall. It's also a bit more expensive, I believe. The frames linked from Carbon Speed and Yoeleo are actually the same frame: the 036. And that's the frame I'd probably go with. Been around for a while and there are quite a few really nice builds utilizing the 036 on this forum (Carbon_Dude's comes to mind: http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4.msg7.html#msg7) and so far all reports and reviews have been positive.

Not to confuse the situation even more but there's also the 098: http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,530.0.html

Hopefully that made some sense and will help get you rolling in the right direction. Just be patient and keep reading. It's really not as complicated as it at first may seem. Like I said, trim down to more specific questions and we'll be able to help out a bit more.