Author Topic: Suggestion for a new frame  (Read 11621 times)

Rone69

Suggestion for a new frame
« on: October 08, 2018, 06:19:05 AM »
Hi to all,
I'd like your advice for a new carbon frame.
The features that interested me are:
- good construction quality
- good ride quality, I'm looking for an all-rounder with good climbing and descendig quality.
- tyres clearance up to 30mm or higher
- direct mount rim brakes
- seat tube angle 73° or 73.5° with standard seatpost
I appreciate any suggestion you would give me.
Thank you in advance.



carbonazza

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 08:37:28 AM »
Did you consider disc brakes ?
I know pure roadies have some conservative fear in them, but even the pro start to win big races with them  ;)
And for descents it is a game changer, without even mentioning wet roads, fatter rims/tires, better modularity, etc.

Rone69

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 12:52:10 PM »
Did you consider disc brakes ?
I know pure roadies have some conservative fear in them, but even the pro start to win big races with them  ;)
And for descents it is a game changer, without even mentioning wet roads, fatter rims/tires, better modularity, etc.

Yes, I know the plus of the disc brakes, but if I have the option I prefer the direct mount, otherwise I will consider the disc brakes.
Anyway, which disc frame you can recommend?

carbonazza

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2018, 12:16:59 PM »
If you are looking for an all rounder, I would try a gravel.
Allowing many types of tires 700c up to 40mm or 27" at 47mm.
It can ride everywhere and is sturdy.
The Carbonda 505 I ride, has the same geometry as my Canyon Ultimate road bike.
And equipped with a SRAM RED Etap HRD, and light carbon rims, it weights 7.1kg

Now if you look for a pure road bike, I can't help  ;)

Rone69

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2018, 01:15:41 PM »
If you are looking for an all rounder, I would try a gravel.
Allowing many types of tires 700c up to 40mm or 27" at 47mm.
It can ride everywhere and is sturdy.
The Carbonda 505 I ride, has the same geometry as my Canyon Ultimate road bike.
And equipped with a SRAM RED Etap HRD, and light carbon rims, it weights 7.1kg

Now if you look for a pure road bike, I can't help  ;)

Thank you for the advice.
Coincidentally, the Ultimate CF SLX is the first one in the list of potentially my new frame.

carbonazza

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2018, 02:00:17 PM »
Coincidentally, the Ultimate CF SLX is the first one in the list of potentially my new frame.

A more expensive option, the same model as mine.
If you go that route, you won't regret any second on it :D
Well... the Carbonda either.

carbonazza

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2018, 09:24:25 AM »
!! BREAKING NEWS !!  ;)

My Canyon ultimate frame cracked for a second time...
The first time it was at the front derailleur fixture, and Canyon replaced it under warranty in April.
I got a Di2 compatible frame with many useless holes for a Red eTap, but ok.

I was cleaning my bike to prepare it for a mad 400+km ride this weekend.
And saw a crack on the inside of the drive-side seatstay  >:(

I went to Canyon to get their advice. And after a quick first look, they think it is an impact  :'(
But they can scan it to be sure. It just lasts 3-4 months  :o
Not sure what options will be available if they conclude it is an impact.

So for my ride, I quickly transformed my Carbonda into a road bike.



And wow... it was... great !
The triangle saddle, BB, bar is exactly the same as the Ultimate, and it is as light.

The Canyon was my first branded bike, and for big money, and it is the one who gave me most problems of all:
Cracks.
An aero-bar incompatible with most accessories( Wahoo, lights, bags ).
An impossible to adjust front derailleur, from day one( twice returned, and still not working properly ), while on the Carbonda it was instantly done.

So if you ask me now, I would buy 4 or 5 Carbonda frames instead of a branded one.

Rone69

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2018, 11:03:30 AM »
It is very nice, thank you again.

325racer

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2018, 08:47:56 PM »
How is the stiffness between the Canyon and Carbonda?

carbonazza

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 03:49:29 AM »
I can't notice any difference. They are both as stiff.

Rone69

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 06:24:00 AM »
and which are more comfortable?

carbonazza

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 08:28:53 AM »
I did some long rides lastly, a 258km with the Ultimate few weeks ago, to prepare this recent 408km  :o ride with the Carbonda.
They felt both as comfortable.
This depends mainly on the bike fit/saddle I guess, which are identical on both setup.
And both are carbon that absorb better small vibrations.

Tires play a big role too.
On the Ultimate with 25mm tires at 120psi, prepare yourself for a solid shake if the road gets rough.
I never tried the Carbonda with 25mm tires.
Here I was using 28mm tubeless tires, that become ~30mm at 6bar/90psi on a 23mm in/30mm out wide rim.

The Ultimate accept a quite generous 35mm tires, on a 30mm wide rims.
The Carbonda up to 40mm. For real gravel tires for instance.

Rone69

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2018, 11:11:27 AM »
.....
The Ultimate accept a quite generous 35mm tires, on a 30mm wide rims
......

35mm tires ??!! !!!  ;D
Your Ultimate have the disc brakes I suppose .....

carbonazza

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2018, 03:05:43 PM »
35mm tires ??!! !!!  ;D
Your Ultimate have the disc brakes I suppose .....

What ?!? Some riders still want rim brakes ?  ;)

Rone69

Re: Suggestion for a new frame
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2018, 11:14:00 PM »
35mm tires ??!! !!!  ;D
Your Ultimate have the disc brakes I suppose .....

What ?!? Some riders still want rim brakes ?  ;)

Yes, I am one of them  ....  :P