Author Topic: Hardtail with suspension SEAT TUBE.  (Read 3945 times)

tripleDot

Hardtail with suspension SEAT TUBE.
« on: November 14, 2018, 10:54:23 AM »
You read that right, suspension seat tube. I just saw this being sold on a local FB bike group and wanted to know if anybody knows what frame and which Chiner company is selling this. While at it, does anyone here owns one? How does the suspension work?

And then there's this carbon fibre suspension fork.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2018, 11:28:49 AM by tripleDot »


July 2020 - Custom Waltly Ti 29er
Nov 2018 - Custom Waltly Ti Gravel
Apr 2018 - CS-496 29x3.0 - stripped
Feb 2018 - CS-RB01 (SS Road)
Sep 2016 - CS-RB01 (road sold)
Jun 2016 - Chinese CF XC - stripped
Mar 2016 - Haro Projekt (sold)
Feb 2008 - Jamis Durango 29 (sold)
Mar 2001 - Scott Scale (sold)

carbonazza

Re: Hardtail with suspension SEAT TUBE.
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 03:28:54 PM »
Intriguing... Do you think there is some kind of rubber damping around the axle ?

tripleDot

Re: Hardtail with suspension SEAT TUBE.
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2018, 08:54:34 PM »
@Carbonazza, it is intriguing indeed. l've been looking at those pictures for quite some time and I couldn't tell how the "suspension" works. I messaged the guy posting that ad but he has yet to respond.

I was actually hoping someone here have some knowledge of it.
July 2020 - Custom Waltly Ti 29er
Nov 2018 - Custom Waltly Ti Gravel
Apr 2018 - CS-496 29x3.0 - stripped
Feb 2018 - CS-RB01 (SS Road)
Sep 2016 - CS-RB01 (road sold)
Jun 2016 - Chinese CF XC - stripped
Mar 2016 - Haro Projekt (sold)
Feb 2008 - Jamis Durango 29 (sold)
Mar 2001 - Scott Scale (sold)

emu26

Re: Hardtail with suspension SEAT TUBE.
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2018, 11:53:07 PM »
I think the word "suspension" is a bit misleading in this case.  I suspect you will find it is actually only dampening of "trail chatter" and this is acheived through the flex of the quadrilateral that is the top tube, down tube, seat and chain stays. Normally these would be stiffened by the seat tube but because the top isn't fixed the quadrilateral will have flex in it.

I also think that pic is only a proto-type or "mock up". Have a look at the stays, all 4 of them have a small section of tube joined into them to lengthen the rear dropout from the bb.

It may well be legitimate but I would be wary about dropping coin on that until you found someone that has bought from that buyer.

carbonazza

Re: Hardtail with suspension SEAT TUBE.
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2018, 03:26:32 AM »
@emu26, I vote for your suspicion !  :D
A flexing rear triangle is common now, so it could be an extension of that function to the whole frame.
It looks indeed a mockup, and the connection between the seatstays is a bit thin...

tripleDot

Re: Hardtail with suspension SEAT TUBE.
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2018, 12:29:21 AM »
"Dampener" does seem like an aft description for that frame. The guy never did reply to my inquiry.
July 2020 - Custom Waltly Ti 29er
Nov 2018 - Custom Waltly Ti Gravel
Apr 2018 - CS-496 29x3.0 - stripped
Feb 2018 - CS-RB01 (SS Road)
Sep 2016 - CS-RB01 (road sold)
Jun 2016 - Chinese CF XC - stripped
Mar 2016 - Haro Projekt (sold)
Feb 2008 - Jamis Durango 29 (sold)
Mar 2001 - Scott Scale (sold)