Carbonda fm936 Thoughts

[Eneen]

This is clear glossy/matte over raw carbon. That's what I've ordered for my 909 (glossy), but I don't have photos yet. However, before I ordered, Adam sent me video of what it looks like: it's something like Orbea raw carbon with visible UD structure. IMO it looks better than standard matte black primer finish, as I can use glossy transparent stickers over it. I'm not sure if they remove black primer or get "bare" frames from factory.
For $35 extra you can order glossy/matte gradient.

[volan]

Ordered SL 936 L size with 120mm rear linkage. So excited 

Thank you guys for being of huge help; @arno knell and @carbonazza!

Now off to ordering all the parts I will need. Surely will come back with the build!

edit: since I will buy dt swiss R 232 ONE 165x45, bushing set for dt swiss doesn't have 8x30mm but only 8x29.8. Should that be ok?

Regards from Croatia!

[HAL_69000]

I painted a Carbonda frame that had the standard matte finish. I sanded it down a bit first (not all the way to the carbon) before spraying with a 2k primer. The primer has held without any issues. All of my paint chips have only taken the color layer off and left the primer, so I think it's fine to paint over their matte finish.


I wrote up my experience on another thread:
https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3714.0.html

Just want to say that your paint job looks excellent!

Paid for my frame today. In stock and ready to ship so I think I'll be receiving it soon.

[volan]

I was communicating with Wing. He said 1-2 weeks waiting time. Does that mean they take 1-2 weeks to make, then ship?

[Arno Knell]

Ordered SL 936 L size with 120mm rear linkage. So excited 

Thank you guys for being of huge help; @arno knell and @carbonazza!

Now off to ordering all the parts I will need. Surely will come back with the build!

edit: since I will buy dt swiss R 232 ONE 165x45, bushing set for dt swiss doesn't have 8x30mm but only 8x29.8. Should that be ok?

Regards from Croatia!

DT Swiss bushing set 8x29,8mm is also ok.

[volan]

Guys, it's me again. Can someone please confirm that r232 one can fit the remote in 936 frame considering that housing for remote comes from top of the shock and that's the bottom side on the frame. I saw one of you guys made it with 535 shock but that one has the remote insert sideways. And ofcourse, I cannot find 535 shock (remote) available anywhere... I'm in the process of ordering remaining parts, and this one brings helluva lot of headache... Could some of you guys give me an painkiller for that?

I guess the cable could make the 90° turn from the bottom of the frame into the housing hole in the frame... or am I wrong?

this is the 535 that one of you guys made it work. http://chinertown.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2079.0;attach=5168;image

But 232 has the cables like this: https://www.bike-components.de/en/DT-Swiss/R-232-ONE-Trunnion-Remote-Ready-Rear-Shock-p76022/?o=210864-black-165-mm-x-45-mm

help

edit: ok, finally ran into one guy that mounter r232 with remote. this should be the way:
https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/carbonda-fm-936-erfahrungsaustausch.941960/page-53#post-18215866

[jannmayer]

Bikeradar had a review of the Vitus Rapide FS CRX this morning. That's basically a 936 with a 100 mm fork.


https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/bikes/mountain-bikes/full-suspension-mountain-bikes/vitus-rapide-fs-crx-review/


They said that it needed a lockout to pedal efficiently, especially when out of the saddle. Does that match experiences with the 936 frame?


How much would the shock tune affect that?

[wfl3]

People that need lockouts will need a lockout on any FS bike, whether it's manual, auto (brain), or electronic.

Some people feel it helps out of the saddle or climbing, some don't

I've never had a problem with holeshots in a race or long sustained climbs in a race and I always leave my shocks in full open, YMMV.

[SimonW]

Well, I had the same question regarding this frame as I am planning to psh the trigger.
I am ridding a Niner with the CVA suspension. Only on a sprint I would lock the rear, other wise, Trail or Open mode all the way long. But, the suspension is very efficient despite what peaolple think of Niner.

On a Scott Spark, I would want a lock, what ever you can argue.

I guess, the feeling of the bike is also important. I am racing my Niner Open mode or Trail mode according to the race. Stiffness is not its main ability, but it is bloody efficient on rude terrain. The Spark is very fast on fast rolling races but bloody exhausting on technical trail despite the slacker head angle.

This FM936 seems very rigid around the BB, so I would go for a locking system to put down the Watts on fast terrain.

[wfl3]

Like I said above, people that prefer lockouts on their bikes will want one on the FM936 as well - Carbonda has not figured out how to defy the laws of physics yet.

That said, it's a very efficient pedaler for those with a smooth pedal stroke.

[carbonazza]

Like I said above, people that prefer lockouts on their bikes will want one on the FM936 as well - Carbonda has not figured out how to defy the laws of physics yet.

That said, it's a very efficient pedaler for those with a smooth pedal stroke.

Do you think the FM909 is better or worse in that regard ?

[wfl3]

Do you think the FM909 is better or worse in that regard ?

I'd guess about the same, I don't have an FM909, but do ride a new rev Signal Peak with similar suspension layout.  The SP is a 115mm true 4 bar though, so the 909 should actually pedal a touch better in open mode - not enough that I would notice probably.  Most of the newer FS XC oriented bikes have a lot of anti squat in their suspension design. 

For me they're all about the same, except the opposing mini-link (dw-link style) bikes.  I like the mini-link suspension better for technical climbing, but they have been high maintenance - at least in my experiences.     

[volan]

I see there were some issues regarding the upper shock mount bolt  being too soft and bending easily. Is that still the case or they replaced the bolt?

If they didn't fix it, can you guys tell me what bolt should I order? Is it the same dimensions for 100 and 120mm linkage?

[lukwy]

Hi, I haven't been here for a while. Preparing for the new season I was thinking about changing crankarms for shorter due to some last season dengerous situations despite having SID 120mm and 43mm rear shock (dt 535 with self made 2mm spacer).  And here is what interesting news I came across: new 'longer' rocker arm release. I want to go for it. Have you guys CAD/pdf drawing of it? I'd like to check the geo change, especially the BB lift up, before I pull the trigger. It may be only three distance measurements between the axes instead of drawing.

[volan]

Hi, I haven't been here for a while. Preparing for the new season I was thinking about changing crankarms for shorter due to some last season dengerous situations despite having SID 120mm and 43mm rear shock (dt 535 with self made 2mm spacer).  And here is what interesting news I came across: new 'longer' rocker arm release. I want to go for it. Have you guys CAD/pdf drawing of it? I'd like to check the geo change, especially the BB lift up, before I pull the trigger. It may be only three distance measurements between the axes instead of drawing.

Wing responded to me that there's a delay for 120mm linkage. It'll be available by the end of march

I was hoping to get the frame by mid-march... So sad now. So you can expect them not to be shipped that soon, too bad.

I have one question for you by the way. You made a spacer for 535? I already ordered 232 shock for 45mm travel. Is it possible to modify 232 travel from 45 to 40/42.5, and could you direct me how to do it?

I'm thinking about ordering 100mm linkage, and modify 232 so I can put it on, and order 120mm when they have them ready.