Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831

[Sowers711]

Responded to my email within minutes. I love my aluminum Bronson, but looking forward to building up a really nice budget 29er.

[emu26]

Have you found their store on ebay?

My search skills aren't showing me anything, I suspect because of location

[emu26]

Have you found their store on ebay?

My search skills aren't showing me anything, I suspect because of location

Found it,I think.

Looks like it is Tideace on Ebay    http://www.ebaystores.com.au/haidelibikes

[Sowers711]

Yeah, that’s it. Sorry for not posting a link.

[Flo7]

The geometry of the 831 Am is the same as the Santa cruz Hightower...
Chinese Size "S" is the Santa size "M"!

I will order Size 16,5" would be a medium Santa Cruz...

MIRA BIKES TOLD ME THIS PRICE: 469USD for the Frame, 15 USD for the rear axle and 105USD for shipping

I´m not sure if this correct?!

Cheers,

Florian

[emu26]

I would be very wary of the geometry figures on that AM frame.  As I mentioned previously, they aren't measuring through centre of bb which I believe is the norm.

Edit, ignore that comment, I was thinking the 830 not 831

[Sowers711]

Just got another email.

[Bos]

I have owned a Santacruz and love the VPP suspension.I just cant afford them anymore.

I am in the market for a more up to date and slightly longer travel bike then the ICAN P8. However, I'm not so sure I want to own the very first one.. 19'' is my size, might wait until someone puts it through its paces, theres quite a lot to get right in a month. If the last pic they have is still the 3D printed version..

[Flo7]

So new Message von Miracle->

Price 669USD for 1pc and  the Price 469USD is for MOQ 10 PCS!

[Sowers711]

Waiting to hear back on price, but was told preorders would receive discount.

[Flo7]

Waiting to hear back on price, but was told preorders would receive discount.

From haidelibicycle: Yes, USD30 for the discount of preorder

II´m thinking that It is to much risk for 30 USD to pre order a Chinese Frame, which is maybe on stock january. So i will wait

[Sowers711]

Waiting to hear back on price, but was told preorders would receive discount.

From haidelibicycle: Yes, USD30 for the discount of preorder

II´m thinking that It is to much risk for 30 USD to pre order a Chinese Frame, which is maybe on stock january. So i will wait

Oh, thanks. Yeah $30 is not that great of a difference to risk a preorder on an unproven frame. Think I will wait also.

[gido]

Any new information on the frame? I was told 17,19 inch january, other sizes later. I was thinking 21 for me, i am 191.5 cm tall 91 cm inseam, maybe 19 will be ok, but i dont want another too small bike, had some before:(.  Maybe they should make chainstay longer on 21 inch like santa cruz and a flip chip for running different wheelsets 27+ and 29.

[gohloum]

I looked at some of those links where specs were stated.  Largest tire size I saw was 29 x 2.4.  Technically a DHF/DHR combo are 2.5, although that's a 50psi measurement.  However, most all modern brand bikes (like my Fezzari Signal Peak marathon XC) now accept up to 29x2.6 AND a 27.5x2.8, so you can run either size. That's a deal breaker for me if I can't fit say a Hans Damph 2.6 in there. 

The thing that gets me is if they are gonna put in so much trouble as to copy a bike, why not spec it current? I mean it's a new frame and they had to do the work to setup the molds and what not.  Doing things like BSA BB, wide tire capability, boosted rear (148mm), etc, this should be the norm.  Just my 2 cents...

[bruto]

did anyone ask Haideli about the suspension charts?
preferrably with readable numbers