Author Topic: Carbonda Cfr 1056  (Read 120130 times)

Michi

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #120 on: August 05, 2021, 01:50:39 PM »
Once the frame has arrived (reading "flight has been deayed" now for several days already :-() I plan to build it "semi fully integrated": using standard handlebar and stem and routing the cables through the headset into the frame (headset is FSA No. 69 https://www.bike24.de/p1422400.html ). That gives a somewhat clean look, yet keeps the option to play around with stem and handlebar. LAst not least it's easier to install :-) As I plan for a completely mechanical system (SRAM Force + TRP Spyre SLC) I'm a little bit curious how this impacts the friction of the cables. Anyway I have ordered both internal and external routing fork so if it does not work I have a backup :-)

jstrawks

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #121 on: August 05, 2021, 02:47:15 PM »
Yes both, otherwise you can not attach the hose to the caliper  ;)

I know, but..well..."pictures or it didn't happen".

Thanks!

chadrandom

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #122 on: August 05, 2021, 05:11:42 PM »
I just checked back here after many months and I'm so glad to see this thread and frame have gotten some traction.  Thanks to all who have led the way in showing what this frame can do and become.  I'll be building this frame up with Rival AXS group when I can get my hands on one.  Until then, I'll be figuring out the paint job and sorting out a Unicorn Ti build with all Chinese components.  Cheers all!

Aesch

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #123 on: August 06, 2021, 03:29:03 AM »
I did too so I ordered the extra fork. @90usd that was an easy choice to allow me full flexibility in the future.

jstrawks

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #124 on: August 06, 2021, 09:27:24 AM »
Can anyone confirm that the headset for this frame is 1.5" top and bottom?

I'm considering ordering both forks as well. I plan to build around a SRAM Force 1x group (when available). I've already purchased a discontinued SRAM 1x GXP 42t crankset. I'm told by Carbonda that they have my size with a BSA68 bbshell and won't have BB86 frames until September (who wouldn't want the BSA68?).

Even if I don't go with full internal routing, I think this headset and stem will look better on the frame than using an non-internal headset.

https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/no-55r-1-5-acr?_pos=2&_sid=b8f013fc2&_ss=r

https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/non-series-acr-stem?_pos=5&_sid=b8f013fc2&_ss=r

If I use the internal routed fork later, I'd need this anyway.

I'll probably run the hydraulic cables through this bar.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/equipment/cycling-components/bike-handlebars-accessories/bike-handlebars/road-bike-handlebars/bontrager-elite-aero-vr-cf-road-handlebar/p/23238/


jstrawks

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #125 on: August 06, 2021, 03:19:35 PM »
The first part for my CFR 1056 build project has arrived.

« Last Edit: August 06, 2021, 03:21:09 PM by jstrawks »

jstrawks

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #126 on: August 07, 2021, 09:45:36 AM »
OK, I'm stupid. I'm asking the vendor if I can return that crankset. When I bought it, I didn't realize that SRAM AXS *requires* the flat top chain, and that chain isn't compatible with the chainring on this set. Oops.

Measure twice...and all that.

jstrawks


cme

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #128 on: August 07, 2021, 08:34:53 PM »
Can anyone confirm that the headset for this frame is 1.5" top and bottom?
Yes, the head tube is 1.5" top and bottom.

http://www.carbonda.com/road-frames/125.html
Headset:   1-1/2"* 1-1/2”ACR

Finished assembly earlier this week (I have to learn to stage better...) -
« Last Edit: August 07, 2021, 08:49:26 PM by cme »

jstrawks

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #129 on: August 08, 2021, 08:14:40 AM »
Yes, the head tube is 1.5" top and bottom.

http://www.carbonda.com/road-frames/125.html
Headset:   1-1/2"* 1-1/2”ACR

Finished assembly earlier this week (I have to learn to stage better...) -

Thanks.

Is that Carbonda's integrated bar and stem? Did they provide that full stack of spacers? Did you have any trouble routing the hydraulics through the bar/stem/steerer/fork?

cme

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #130 on: August 08, 2021, 11:13:03 AM »
Yes, that's Carbonda's integrated handlebar. It does make for a bit of a guessing game to get reach and width both correct on a new frame - but in my case, it happened to work. Only (extremely minor) quibble is that the top cap is a different matte black color than the frame/fork/seatpost/handlebars.

The bike ships with 1x 10mm and 2x 5mm spacers. Fortunately, the FSA ACR 10mm spacers (I'm using 5 here - will dial in exact fit later) are back in stock in their store for $4/each. https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/acr-stem-spacer These were pretty scarce for a few months.

Routing hydraulics was fine. I used a fishing kit & electrical tape. If not for the kit, it probably would have been Very Hard as the hose is not very flexible and there are a couple tight turns.

As an aside - it's tough to keep slack on these hoses within the frame, but there is some play on the routing inside the handlebar to hold some slack. I presume the hose just bends horizontally within the flat section. That's great for me, since I don't want to have to recut the hose if I remove spacers & adjust height. Also the spacers all detach in the middle meaning you don't have to completely disassemble everything to add/remove one or two.

I'm using the $10 headset that Carbonda sells - and it also works great. Pretty sure I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between this and a name brand version.

We didn't have any real assembly issues. The flat mounts for calipers were faced correctly & even the pressfit BB went in smoothly w/o any creaking (yet).

Overall, the frame, fork, seatpost, handlebar combination is a pretty incredible value and the ride is pretty compliant. I'm super pleased.

jstrawks

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #131 on: August 08, 2021, 11:49:06 AM »
Yes, that's Carbonda's integrated handlebar. It does make for a bit of a guessing game to get reach and width both correct on a new frame - but in my case, it happened to work. Only (extremely minor) quibble is that the top cap is a different matte black color than the frame/fork/seatpost/handlebars.

Thanks for all this. How did you specify your bar/stem? What were the options you were offered?

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Routing hydraulics was fine. I used a fishing kit & electrical tape. If not for the kit, it probably would have been Very Hard as the hose is not very flexible and there are a couple tight turns.

What is this "fishing kit"? Something you bought somewhere?

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Also the spacers all detach in the middle meaning you don't have to completely disassemble everything to add/remove one or two.

The Carbonda spacers and the FSA spacers all detach in the middle?

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...even the pressfit BB went in smoothly w/o any creaking (yet).

Were you given an option for BSA68? That's the only option I'm being offered until pressfit is back in stock in September.
Would you have chosen BSA68 over the pressfit if you had the option?

Thanks again.

Aesch

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #132 on: August 08, 2021, 12:07:04 PM »
I know, but..well..."pictures or it didn't happen".

Thanks!

As soon as everything is in I'll have more pics  ;D
Still waiting on the frame and gear to arrive

Aesch

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #133 on: August 08, 2021, 12:07:42 PM »
Yes, the head tube is 1.5" top and bottom.

http://www.carbonda.com/road-frames/125.html
Headset:   1-1/2"* 1-1/2”ACR

Finished assembly earlier this week (I have to learn to stage better...) -

Looks great though! What size is it? And what depth are the wheels?

adriaanm

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #134 on: August 08, 2021, 12:30:16 PM »
What is this "fishing kit"? Something you bought somewhere?
Not OP, but I used the internal cable routing kit by ZTTO. Worked well enough.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mL66WMP