Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame

[renrew]

There is a lot of lying about the weights. Peter Sagen's bike weighs and that's important Ready to ride 7.33 kg My Velobuild weighs exactly the same size 7.49 kg. There are 50 mm high rims on it.
I only believe the 7 kg when I see an exact listing

[renrew]

Zdrenka89
What is the name of the color of your build?

[Greenred]

I'm actually still on the hunt for another top cap as I want a UD Matte finish to match the bars, as the one I bought only comes in 3K weave. I can't for the life of me find a UD Matte top cap which is a bit annoying haha.

This looks like it could fit I think: https://www.veloplus.ch/shop/veloteile/steuersaetze/spacer-und-zubehoer/veloplus-topcap-carbon-vorbaudeckel-ud-matt-33000638.001?tab=info

[Zdrenka89]

Zdrenka89
What is the name of the color of your build?

It is this paint but in a Matte finish.
http://www.velobuild.com/products/vb-r-168-light-weight-carbon-road-bike-frameset-blue-chameleon

[renrew]

It is this paint but in a Matte finish.
http://www.velobuild.com/products/vb-r-168-light-weight-carbon-road-bike-frameset-blue-chameleon

Thanks great color

[Nickk2000]

There is a lot of lying about the weights. Peter Sagen's bike weighs and that's important Ready to ride 7.33 kg My Velobuild weighs exactly the same size 7.49 kg. There are 50 mm high rims on it.
I only believe the 7 kg when I see an exact listing

you gotta factor in the mount, pedals, ect. i can see a few ways to shave a couple grams. one, lighter pedals. the 9100 pedals are 228g listed and you can probably shave some if you run time or look carbon keos, speedplays, while equaling weight to the system, bike weight is less. pm adds a tiny bit of weight, 140mm stem is freaking long, normally its like 110-120. mirror evo is 185g, which you can find seats for 100-125 and youre very comfortable on. so its listed at 6.8kg out of the box, but 7.1 is more realistic ready to ride. frames 800g for the sl7. its 1050 or something from velobuild? fork and seatpost are gonna be less and more respectively, so probably looking at 325-350g difference in frame weight. 51/60 wheelset so 55-56 weight, which is gonna be 1500g from any wheelset company from china, so thats like 100g there extra. also his bike is duraace di2 and yours is red etap, which red weighs more, like 150g maybe?

[renrew]

Hey Greenred,

For sure I agree with everything you've said 

I'm still interested to know that if they have managed to build the bike at only 7kg how they managed to do that, as I may copy some of their build ideas to try and reduce the weight of mine.

At the end of the day I'll still be more than happy with my build if I can get it down to the around the 7.8kg mark, which should be achievable with the parts I still need to order.



From what I have read, a 1kg weight saving on the bike is the equivalent to around 3-5watts. As I always ride solo I'd be better off just adjusting my body position to be more aero which would yield better gains 

For my top cap, I've bought this one from AliExpress: https://aliexpress.com/item/33026362844.html?

It's the 32mm size and I bought the unbranded top cap which weighs 3g and the black bolt which weighs 7g. I think you can drop another 2g if you choose the gold or rainbow bolt as they are Ti (when I bought it I didn't really read the description and though the black was also Ti). I got the black as I've replaced all of the bolts on my 168 with black Ti bolts so wanted this to match the rest.

I'm actually still on the hunt for another top cap as I want a UD Matte finish to match the bars, as the one I bought only comes in 3K weave. I can't for the life of me find a UD Matte top cap which is a bit annoying haha.

4,99,-€

[renrew]

you gotta factor in the mount, pedals, ect. i can see a few ways to shave a couple grams. one, lighter pedals. the 9100 pedals are 228g listed and you can probably shave some if you run time or look carbon keos, speedplays, while equaling weight to the system, bike weight is less. pm adds a tiny bit of weight, 140mm stem is freaking long, normally its like 110-120. mirror evo is 185g, which you can find seats for 100-125 and youre very comfortable on. so its listed at 6.8kg out of the box, but 7.1 is more realistic ready to ride. frames 800g for the sl7. its 1050 or something from velobuild? fork and seatpost are gonna be less and more respectively, so probably looking at 325-350g difference in frame weight. 51/60 wheelset so 55-56 weight, which is gonna be 1500g from any wheelset company from china, so thats like 100g there extra. also his bike is duraace di2 and yours is red etap, which red weighs more, like 150g maybe?

he bike weighs exactly 7.6kg in 58 with the pedals (weighed it myself) buddy rides it. even professionals don't rip out the last gram because they have to DRIVE it)

[Nickk2000]

he bike weighs exactly 7.6kg in 58 with the pedals (weighed it myself) buddy rides it. even professionals don't rip out the last gram because they have to DRIVE it)

i know! but specialized boasts "6.8 kg out the box" pedals are 200-250g either way you look at it, computer mount, bottle cages, tubeless, add another 100-200 grams. now you can only get 7.2 kg if youre a real weight weenie. can probs shave down to 7-7.2 tops if you do a lot of modifications, but like you said, you have to ride it.

speaking of which, have any of you guys bought a full carbon hard shell saddle? any reviews?

[hazzer19]

i know! but specialized boasts "6.8 kg out the box" pedals are 200-250g either way you look at it, computer mount, bottle cages, tubeless, add another 100-200 grams. now you can only get 7.2 kg if youre a real weight weenie. can probs shave down to 7-7.2 tops if you do a lot of modifications, but like you said, you have to ride it.

speaking of which, have any of you guys bought a full carbon hard shell saddle? any reviews?

I have been riding on this saddle for a few months and was very happy with the level of comfort it offers surprisingly and the weight (~80g!), until it cracked... I'm 90Kg which is under the 100 Kg weight limit but this could have been a factor. Someone else on the forum seems to ride a couple of them without issue and thought the break could have been impact related, can't remember dropping it but maybe. The Ali seller is sending me a replacement and if this one works out ok, I'll get a second for the other bike.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32942070759.html?spm=a2g0o.search0302.0.0.72493d00p5gUgK&algo_pvid=f5a36f23-cbee-4fab-bf49-4ddb377b1a78&algo_exp_id=f5a36f23-cbee-4fab-bf49-4ddb377b1a78-10

There's a discussion on some of these here: http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3250.15.html


 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32942070759.html?spm=a2g0o.search0302.0.0.72493d00p5gUgK&algo_pvid=f5a36f23-cbee-4fab-bf49-4ddb377b1a78&algo_exp_id=f5a36f23-cbee-4fab-bf49-4ddb377b1a78-10

[kbike]

I'm not finished but see alot of debate on weight. So throwing in my 168 current weight. This is with pedals, metal cages, mounts.  I can maybe shave 150g more but that's as far as I'm willing to take this build.

[OlieSimpson]

I'm not finished but see alot of debate on weight. So throwing in my 168 current weight. This is with pedals, metal cages, mounts.  I can maybe shave 150g more but that's as far as I'm willing to take this build.

Hey KBike,

You're weight is about as light as I thought you could make a 168 without going to extreme measures 

Would it be possible to post a components list so we can see how you did it?

[kbike]

Here is a list. I didn't take pics of everything on scales.  There is definitely some guessing for items. If it ends in 0 I didn't weigh it or can't remember what I scaled the parts.

[Jim.de]

Hi there,

i am currently looking for a new frame and are hesitant between the more relaxed CFR1056 from Carbonda and the 168 from VB. I like the 168 overall more, the only factor at the moment is the tyre clearance. I will ride the bike mostly on tarmac but will also be riding some light gravel. At the moment a run a schwalbe x-one allround (on my canyon inflite, which I wont continue to ride unfortunately). So I would be interested which tyre options for cyclocross/gravel you´ve tried.

Cheers,
Jim

[kbike]

I have clement(donnelly) pdx and mxp 33 that work. I don't have anything larger to try. Has anyone tried to fit continental Terra speed?