Author Topic: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort  (Read 47405 times)

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #180 on: November 14, 2024, 07:31:21 AM »

TidyDinosaur

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #181 on: November 14, 2024, 07:32:26 AM »
Did you also account for the rim offset?

impmonkey

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #182 on: November 14, 2024, 09:02:25 AM »
Did you also account for the rim offset?

That I did.
Thanks all!

kazuviking

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #183 on: November 14, 2024, 11:03:52 AM »

2 Cross Lacing.
Spoke Lengths offered by seller is 192 and 194.

Does this look correct? Could I get away with 194 on the read right side? Technically 2.3mm to long according to the calc.

Spoke length with the offset values. Spokecalc doesn't allow more than 4mm of offset so its 297.03 for the NDS on the rear hub.

Pedaldancer

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #184 on: November 14, 2024, 06:46:58 PM »
Wonder if someone can give me a sanity check on some spoke lengths.
Looking at the Goldix sl180:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806765626965.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.17ff38daoQ2LfU&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
Measurements in screenshot.
Wheel ERD is 592 with 2.8mm offset:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803176862682.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.17ff38daoQ2LfU&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

2 Cross Lacing.
Spoke Lengths offered by seller is 192 and 194.

Does this look correct? Could I get away with 194 on the read right side? Technically 2.3mm to long according to the calc.

Besides any calculation... you should not trust the ERD value from a data sheet. That's something you really must measure. I had Carbonbeam rims a couple of months ago where the ERD was wrong by 5mm in the data sheet. Sounds crazy? Yes. It is crazy.

The  spoke hole offset from the shown Goldix drawing must be divided by 2. The drawing clearly indicates that the value marks the double offset.

A general idea before calculating wild and uncontrolled: read around, there are some very nice explanations. And then try again with one of the spoke calc tools.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2024, 06:51:13 PM by Pedaldancer »

toxin

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #185 on: November 15, 2024, 05:38:45 AM »
How did you measure erd and in which direction was the spec wrong?

gf

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #186 on: November 15, 2024, 10:14:17 AM »
Someone has experience with gildix m310 MTB hubs?
I am evaluating a Easedon MTB wheelset with these hubs and I would likes tò know if in case of issues I can replaced ratchet with original dtswiss or other brands.
Thanks

Pedaldancer

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #187 on: November 15, 2024, 06:57:19 PM »
How did you measure erd and in which direction was the spec wrong?


The rim was stated to be 555mm ERD. For Carbonbeam this value refers to the pure rim.. which is also very clearly visible in the technical drawings.
I measured including nipple head which ads 3mm for Sapim polyax 14mm . This measurement gave 553mm .
So considering that the spoke heads added 3mm to the measurement, the pure rim ERD was 550mm .. 5mm off from the data sheet. That's quite a bit and far away from measurement accuracy.
Whereas Ken confirmed my finding, Carbonbeam still didn't change the wrong number in the data sheet.
My wheel build turned out perfect in spokes length, which adds another proof to the finding. With 5mm to high ERD I would have bought 2mm longer spokes, which would have been a desaster.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2024, 07:00:41 PM by Pedaldancer »

swatracing

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #188 on: November 16, 2024, 02:49:52 AM »
Can someone help me for the right DT Swiss Freehub XDR Body for this hub? And should i also change some other parts on the rear hub like Bearings or the spring or the ratched system?


https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004904398758.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.337.95615c5fDrduz1&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

KOCEVLO Stern Ratsche Straße DISC Bremse Straightpull Hub 100x1 2/142x12mm 24 loch Licht 270g straße 60T Ratsche Naben ENDURO

Would be great if someone can help me or has experience with this rear hub.

courdacier

Re: DT 240EXP hub clones Goldix, Venfort
« Reply #189 on: November 18, 2024, 10:00:47 AM »
Can someone help me for the right DT Swiss Freehub XDR Body for this hub? And should i also change some other parts on the rear hub like Bearings or the spring or the ratched system?


https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004904398758.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.337.95615c5fDrduz1&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

KOCEVLO Stern Ratsche Straße DISC Bremse Straightpull Hub 100x1 2/142x12mm 24 loch Licht 270g straße 60T Ratsche Naben ENDURO

Would be great if someone can help me or has experience with this rear hub.

I bought j-spoke kocevlos as well and honestly regret it now - they don't even have model numbers listed. There's a post above that has a link for replacement end-caps and drivers for goldix hubs which kind of look equivalent, but you have to really look at the drawings and dimensions for your hub body to have at least some confidence prior to purchasing.