Author Topic: Groupset News  (Read 69320 times)

jonathanf2

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #315 on: October 20, 2023, 08:34:31 PM »
Sensah Team Pro 11 speed Shimano-compatible hydraulic shifters now available:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006148990399.html

Sensah also now selling all of their hydraulic shifters separately:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006137602599.html

Looks like there's been a small update to the Empire Pro shifters as well, they're now all black (rather than heaving the cheap-looking plastic silver piece).

I asked the Sensah rep on Twitter what the difference with the new gravel rear derailleur is, and he said:

"The new rear chain lifter is stronger, and the chain stability and speed change are enhanced"

I might pick up the new Sensah Team Pro HRD. I've gotten use to Sensah shifting and somewhat prefer it over Shimano.

raisinberry777

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #316 on: October 20, 2023, 08:55:30 PM »
And some more interesting Sensah news that I missed - they're currently testing (looks close to release) a 12 speed version of the Team Pro shifters that work on the same pull ratio as the existing 11 speed gear.

https://twitter.com/thundervolt2/status/1712774126149251371

These are rim-brake shifters, and in the comments on this post, the rep says that they may make a small batch for hydraulic levers as well.

Nice to see another 12-speed rim brake option out there - handy for those who want to keep drivetrain spares the same across bikes.

AzureEssence

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #317 on: October 21, 2023, 07:31:26 PM »
I have nothing to add except I love your username OP rofl  ;D

Pedaldancer

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #318 on: October 22, 2023, 02:12:24 AM »
Sensah Team Pro 11 speed Shimano-compatible hydraulic shifters now available:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006148990399.html

Sensah also now selling all of their hydraulic shifters separately:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006137602599.html

Looks like there's been a small update to the Empire Pro shifters as well, they're now all black (rather than heaving the cheap-looking plastic silver piece).

I asked the Sensah rep on Twitter what the difference with the new gravel rear derailleur is, and he said:

"The new rear chain lifter is stronger, and the chain stability and speed change are enhanced"

That's nice to see...so in future when Shimano 11s hydraulic levers will be no longer available,  there will be an option to fix broken levers.

kbernstein

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #319 on: October 22, 2023, 04:08:43 AM »
That's nice to see...so in future when Shimano 11s hydraulic levers will be no longer available,  there will be an option to fix broken levers.
Considering you can still find good condition groupsets from the 90s on the used market, I think the 12s hydraulic sensah shifters will be extinct before shimano 11s shifters lol

mirphak

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #320 on: October 22, 2023, 04:51:19 AM »
And some more interesting Sensah news that I missed - they're currently testing (looks close to release) a 12 speed version of the Team Pro shifters that work on the same pull ratio as the existing 11 speed gear.

https://twitter.com/thundervolt2/status/1712774126149251371

These are rim-brake shifters, and in the comments on this post, the rep says that they may make a small batch for hydraulic levers as well.

Nice to see another 12-speed rim brake option out there - handy for those who want to keep drivetrain spares the same across bikes.

That is interesting for instance to convert 11s grx groupsets to 12s for instance, for using them with usual MTB casettes. Until now the only good alternative is either these 9-50 casettes (no idea how they work), or the garbaruk 10-50, which is a bit expensive to my taste.

Pedaldancer

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #321 on: October 22, 2023, 06:42:39 AM »
Considering you can still find good condition groupsets from the 90s on the used market, I think the 12s hydraulic sensah shifters will be extinct before shimano 11s shifters lol

Well.. no. 4 years ago I searched for a ultegra leverset from 3x10 group and they were paid in gold.. and  many many of them were heavily used, scratched , damaged.
I don't agree to your experience. "LOL" back...
« Last Edit: October 22, 2023, 06:45:18 AM by Pedaldancer »


hagerd

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #323 on: October 23, 2023, 11:21:24 AM »
Looks like the eGR brake calipers have a new design, they differ from the GRT design.

jonathanf2

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #324 on: October 23, 2023, 12:06:12 PM »
I wonder if it's possible to put a Goatlink the EGR RD to fit an 11-50t cassette?

hagerd

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #325 on: October 23, 2023, 01:00:14 PM »
I wonder why its only up to 46t when the GRT does 50T

mirphak

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #326 on: October 23, 2023, 02:46:07 PM »
I think going up only to 46T is an epic mistake. I was looking forward to see the product announced and maybe buy it, but I am really disappointed. It makes zero sense they limited themselves in that way.

 


raisinberry777

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #327 on: October 24, 2023, 06:15:17 AM »
I think going up only to 46T is an epic mistake. I was looking forward to see the product announced and maybe buy it, but I am really disappointed. It makes zero sense they limited themselves in that way.

Initially I thought the same - but at least you can still use a 10-45 Shimano Microspline or 10-44 SRAM XPLR cassette and still get quite a good range for gravel. It's less than I'd personally like, but for riders in less hilly areas I think it will be suitable.

I think the first issue will be waiting for the price to settle and for some stability testing to be done. As others have said, given the more remote territory I'm likely to be on on a gravel bike, it's a pass from me until others have tested for a significant amount of time.

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #328 on: October 26, 2023, 03:00:50 PM »
And some more interesting Sensah news that I missed - they're currently testing (looks close to release) a 12 speed version of the Team Pro shifters that work on the same pull ratio as the existing 11 speed gear.

https://twitter.com/thundervolt2/status/1712774126149251371

These are rim-brake shifters, and in the comments on this post, the rep says that they may make a small batch for hydraulic levers as well.

Nice to see another 12-speed rim brake option out there - handy for those who want to keep drivetrain spares the same across bikes.

So I asked the Sensah store on Ali when they might be selling these shifters. Something was lost in translation but their message suggests that they are also developing a derailleur with shimano 11 speed pull ratio.

mirphak

Re: Groupset News
« Reply #329 on: November 08, 2023, 03:42:49 AM »
ask again clearer.

Sensah 12speed shifters compatible with Shimano 11 speed derrailleur. Same pull ratio.