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[jonathanf2]

Regarding Sensah hydraulic grouupset: you can buy just the shifters with brake calipers https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLZTy1u, which opens interesting options when paired with either roador gravel/mtb derailleurs. Yes, there's gravel ready Ltwoo groupset, but I am not aure about their mechanical shifters ergonomics -  I have rim brake Ltwoo groupset and the thumb shifter is pain in the anus to reach

I tried LTwoo hydraulic and hated the ergos. I'm more interested in the Sensah HRD and actually like the shift logic, but I'm wondering if they'll cover the Team Pro / Shimano compatible shifter line-up to hydraulic as well? I'd rather just stick to Shimano derailleurs which would open things up to 105/Ultegra/GRX, etc.

[Ludo]

It’s juste the pace at which market moves and investors expected returns. It’s quick and easy to get a product that works 95% of the time, let the early adopters be the beta testers. Look at Tesla, and to a certain extent, bmw/VAG/Mercedes, they are not what they used to be in term of dependability because of that forced development pace…

[ricedaddy]

Perhaps ltwoo should focus on getting erx/er9 right before releasing other products. Maybe this is just the difference between our German and the Chinese mindset. It seems like Chinese products are in a perpetual alpha phase of product development with so many amateur issues cropping up. So far I'm seeing a lot of er9/erx issues that should be weeded out very much prior to any sort of release is even contemplated. Don't they have any pride?

That would increase their cost thus price to consumers. China factories aren't magic where they can build the same quality and reliability at half the cost. They are consciously making this decision to fill in a gap in the market for value buyers.

[PLA]

That would increase their cost thus price to consumers. China factories aren't magic where they can build the same quality and reliability at half the cost. They are consciously making this decision to fill in a gap in the market for value buyers.

no, that's just plain idiocy

[StiffWeenies]

I was amazed to see a picture from Baidu Tieba on a forum located across the ocean, and it was even a picture I personally uploaded. The feeling is truly extraordinary.
Are you perhaps a member of Tieba as well?

我竟然能在一个远在大洋彼岸的论坛里看到来自百度贴吧的图片，甚至还是我自己亲自上传的，这样的感觉真的很奇妙
你不会还是贴吧吧友吧？

Small world

[Ludo]

question for the well connected guys: when can we expect to see the new L-TWOO T5 series groupset? any info on spec? will it be available in 11s, 12s? weight? I hope they keep the graphic as per what is being shown on some youtube video, nice and discreet, says quality much more than red or gold decal to me!

[Ludo]

Well they seem to be available, just ordered a TX, despite the gold lettering:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqFzHzY

[00Garza]

Well they seem to be available, just ordered a TX, despite the gold lettering:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqFzHzY

Looks like the new T-series goes from 9s up to to 12s. Nice that they're innovating...but Deore and SLX 12sp is same price or even cheaper.

[Ludo]

with a little weight penalties. I also just paid $48 for TX 12S delivered, I dont think you can get SLX at that price.

[pecampbe]

Does anyone know what the max cassette is on the Sensah Empire HRD 11 speed? I can't seem to find it on the product page on aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006027398876.html?pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%21US%20%24454.54%21US%20%24227.27%21%21%21%21%21%402141112416959588885015561ed540%2112000035384881842%21im%21%21#nav-specification

[raisinberry777]

Does anyone know what the max cassette is on the Sensah Empire HRD 11 speed? I can't seem to find it on the product page on aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006027398876.html?pdp_npi=3%40dis%21USD%21US%20%24454.54%21US%20%24227.27%21%21%21%21%21%402141112416959588885015561ed540%2112000035384881842%21im%21%21#nav-specification

The design doesn't seem to have changed compared to the rim brake version and it looks like medium cage length is the only option, so 11-34t is the max capacity.

[mirek100]

Does anybody know how much bigger are the Sensah HRD levers comparing to the mechanical Sensah lever? Does anybody have a picture both mechanical and hydraulic lever side by side?

[FabioZang]

Does anybody know how much bigger are the Sensah HRD levers comparing to the mechanical Sensah lever? Does anybody have a picture both mechanical and hydraulic lever side by side?

I have some comparison photos here.

[Linsook]

Damn those are huge.

[TidyDinosaur]

Damn those are huge.

Yeah, I actually liked the mechanical Sensah grips for their small size compared to Shimano hydraulic. But these things are absurdly big... They should come with a disclaimer that you should be 190cm or over to use them...