Raceline Hider / Cinelli Pressure

[patliean1]

Anyone here heard of, or dealt with the Malaysian brand (Chinese built) Raceline? Apparently they make frames from the same factory as Cinelli. First seen it in Oompa Loompa Cycling E105 video below.



27:00 mark

I am kind of intrigued...

[s3si1u]

I was under the impression that some of Cinelli's lineup is open mold frames... not sure how much, and I could be wrong.
Anecdotally, I've seen some carbon Cinelli frames at local shops for VERY good prices, sometimes heavily discounted.

[patliean1]

The gent in the video mention his frame was quite stiff. I would be curious to know if it's true or simply anecdotal.

Shame there isn't more info on it, but I'm sure I could always shoot Raceline an email.

[Queen of Skulls]

I would be interested to see the geo on it and the max tire size.  It looks to be about $800 usd, So I would want the quality to be higher than say tan tan or VB. Better than Elves but that would be easy to match.

[young_mane]

The company's shop is rather near to my house actually lol, perhaps may visit their website to know more: https://zavincicycle.com/raceline

However being an uber budget minded cyclist, I tend to source my own from China directly via taobao, etc.

[Queen of Skulls]

The company's shop is rather near to my house actually lol, perhaps may visit their website to know more: https://zavincicycle.com/raceline

However being an uber budget minded cyclist, I tend to source my own from China directly via taobao, etc.

Well if you can find their source or factory sources please let us know.  Or just swing by the shop and check out their frames.

[StiffWeenies]

Same frame as the Rollingstone Hider, Engine11 Mach1, Atom 6 Strada, Zannata Z90, ICAN A40 and TopCarbon TCRF040

You are however limited to ACR stems because the front fork hose is routed above the steerer like the Oltre XR4. Guy in the video had to punch a hole in the fork to accept that Token S-BOX headset.

[Queen of Skulls]

Same frame as the Rollingstone Hider, Engine11 Mach1, Atom 6 Strada, Zannata Z90, ICAN A40 and TopCarbon TCRF040

You are however limited to ACR stems because the front fork hose is routed above the steerer like the Oltre XR4. Guy in the video had to punch a hole in the fork to accept that Token S-BOX headset.

Eww... I wonder if you can just get everything except the fork and then get a different fork.

[StiffWeenies]

The gent in the video mention his frame was quite stiff. I would be curious to know if it's true or simply anecdotal.

Shame there isn't more info on it, but I'm sure I could always shoot Raceline an email.

The Pressure was good enough to take Baroncini to victory at the '21 UCI World U23 race in Flanders

[patliean1]

Found this interesting post/writeup. You'll need to translate from Japanese

https://plovercycles.com/entry/cinelli_pressure_and_ican_a40

[Queen of Skulls]

Found this interesting post/writeup. You'll need to translate from Japanese

https://plovercycles.com/entry/cinelli_pressure_and_ican_a40

After looking at the geometry between the 2 frames. Ican and cinelli. I can say, they are identical. I would say Cinelli sources their frames from the same factory as raceline and the ican.

[Irideslowly]

The geometry and mold might be the same, but the layup might not

[patliean1]

The geometry and mold might be the same, but the layup might not

This is precisely what I plan to investigate. Not really interested if it turns out to be just another bargain open mold.

[kisuke3]

Found this interesting post/writeup. You'll need to translate from Japanese

https://plovercycles.com/entry/cinelli_pressure_and_ican_a40

I wrote this article. I never thought the day would come when this article would be read by someone from overseas, lol.
As you can see in the link below, As you can see in the link below, Chinelli's Pressure does not have exclusive use of the molds.

https://planet-podium.com/n/nd8e0aa21571a

(Translated)Paolo, First of all, I would like to state that "PRESSURE" is 100% Chinelli's design. However, our sales volume does not cover the full cost of the molds, so the supplier responsible for production has also made an investment. Therefore, we have a contract with other manufacturers that allows them to use our molds in return for their investment. This background may cause some misunderstanding, but Cinelli does all the design work. This information is not secret, but open. We are not secretive about this information, but we are open about it, and Francesca in the public relations department will answer any inquiries in the same way.

[StiffWeenies]

This is precisely what I plan to investigate. Not really interested if it turns out to be just another bargain open mold.

you just have to look at the quoted frame and fork weights
      
TCRF040
Regular frame: 46 1010g, 49 1040g, 52 1070g, 55 1095g, 58 1155g
Regular fork: 450g
Super Light frame: 46 955g, 49 975g, 52 995g, 55 1006g, 58 1000g
Super Light fork: 400g

for reference, Pressure in Size M is 990g & 390g, numbers which are comparable to TCRF040 SL in Size 52

Rollingstone (who Raceline sources from) lists their frameset at 1150g & 400g (no size specified)