Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)

[PaxiH]

The di2 Ultegra touchs the frame plate for me

Can you send a picture please?

[PaxiH]

After reading the 32 pages of this topic and I am really considering buying this frame ! How much was for the frame, no custom paint and shipping to EU ? No price on their website, why ?

I did post an overview of my offer earlier. There you can find the prices.
Other than that you can Mail with Wendy from LC. She responds normally pretty quickly.

[Ar26]

The hanger is fixed by 4 screws. So if they could provide a different hanger it could work.

I'll definitely give updates when I know something new.
So far I can't go on with the build. That sucks.
If I have to go with electronic shifting, the build will be mich more expensive than planned. And I also really like mechanical shifting.

I tasted the electric and it's really great for the settings which offer a lot of possibilities. Without counting on internal wiring, much easier. It's very difficult  to go back.

[rasch]

I tasted the electric and it's really great for the settings which offer a lot of possibilities. Without counting on internal wiring, much easier. It's very difficult  to go back.

Yeap! I completely agree. It's like driving an automatic gears car. Notwithstanding the manual still has its advantages, and at the moment comparing a full 105 hydraulic to a di2 is double the price 500vs1000.

I'll be using an old 105 given by a client in this frame. LC advertises it as allowing 4 cables so I'm not expecting it can't handle mechanical shifting. That screw is adding additional support which is always great, not crucial, but great. Replacing the hanger is a solution, yet let's see. Looking forward for PaxiH feedback

[PaxiH]

Yeap! I completely agree. It's like driving an automatic gears car. Notwithstanding the manual still has its advantages, and at the moment comparing a full 105 hydraulic to a di2 is double the price 500vs1000.

I'll be using an old 105 given by a client in this frame. LC advertises it as allowing 4 cables so I'm not expecting it can't handle mechanical shifting. That screw is adding additional support which is always great, not crucial, but great. Replacing the hanger is a solution, yet let's see. Looking forward for PaxiH feedback

Unfortunately I can't post anything yesterday. Seems like the Website has some problems. I still can't post pictures for some reason.

I was wrong about the hanger. It isn't screwed. It looks like 2.5mm hex but it is riveted.

Wendy did reply to me and tried to help we're she can. I really appreciate that. But she told me that there is only this hanger version. So I guess I have to go without the stabilizing screw and try to index it somehow. As I'm reading in other forum it is also like that to e.g. Basso frames.

In terms of internal cable routing, I finished that yesterday. With the right tools it was possible but not fun at all 

I don't know if it is normal but when I turn the handlebar, there is a hearable rubbing of the cables in the headset area. Should be normal I guess, because the cables need to move somehow when the handlebar is turned. It's my first internally routed frame.

[rasch]

Looking great. Almost done in 1 day... impressive!

You could have used some dampner on the cables to avoid that rubbing sound. Not sure you are a weight weenie ahah Some ppl end up not putting it because of the 30g extra 

As regards indexation I don't think you'll have a major problem with it. Keep us updated and show us the final result on the road too eheh

[PaxiH]

Looking great. Almost done in 1 day... impressive!

You could have used some dampner on the cables to avoid that rubbing sound. Not sure you are a weight weenie ahah Some ppl end up not putting it because of the 30g extra 

As regards indexation I don't think you'll have a major problem with it. Keep us updated and show us the final result on the road too eheh

Thank you 

I used some kind of rubber sleeve specific for anti rattle on each cable. It is more that you can hear/feel the movement inside when turning the handlebar. It's not a problem as it will not be noticable while riding I guess.

The wheel set should be delivered tomorrow according to DHL.

[dinorello]

Unfortunately I can't post anything yesterday. Seems like the Website has some problems. I still can't post pictures for some reason.

I was wrong about the hanger. It isn't screwed. It looks like 2.5mm hex but it is riveted.

Wendy did reply to me and tried to help we're she can. I really appreciate that. But she told me that there is only this hanger version. So I guess I have to go without the stabilizing screw and try to index it somehow. As I'm reading in other forum it is also like that to e.g. Basso frames.

In terms of internal cable routing, I finished that yesterday. With the right tools it was possible but not fun at all 

I don't know if it is normal but when I turn the handlebar, there is a hearable rubbing of the cables in the headset area. Should be normal I guess, because the cables need to move somehow when the handlebar is turned. It's my first internally routed frame.

Looks great so far. Hope that front mechanical derailleur will work okay.  LC should really state that the bike is not designed for mechanical front derailleurs.

[numberzero]

Wendy did reply to me and tried to help we're she can. I really appreciate that. But she told me that there is only this hanger version. So I guess I have to go without the stabilizing screw and try to index it somehow. As I'm reading in other forum it is also like that to e.g. Basso frames.

It seems only recent shimano derailleurs have this "stabilizing screw". Don't worry front derailleurs work perfectly without this feature.

[dinorello]

It seems only recent shimano derailleurs have this "stabilizing screw". Don't worry front derailleurs work perfectly without this feature.

I don't know about it working perfectly without that stabilizing screw.  The screw keeps the derailleur aligned for more consistent shifting for longer without it rubbing 

[PaxiH]

I don't know about it working perfectly without that stabilizing screw.  The screw keeps the derailleur aligned for more consistent shifting for longer without it rubbing

Now I glued the little metal plate from Shimano like this.
I don't think it will hold very long time, but the feature of the screw kinda works 

There would be also the possibility to glue (2k) a little metal plate onto the hanger. But I don't know if that is necessary.

[dinorello]

Now I glued the little metal plate from Shimano like this.
I don't think it will hold very long time, but the feature of the screw kinda works 

There would be also the possibility to glue (2k) a little metal plate onto the hanger. But I don't know if that is necessary.

Wow!  Good job!  Hope it holds

[Ar26]

On a di2 Ultegra, this screw is already at the extreme limit of the plate

[PaxiH]

I finished the Build today after receiving the wheel set.
I've also ridden the first few kilometers to set every adjustment and get a first feel for the bike. The build with pedals and bottle mounts is about 7,5kg.

The mechanical shifting works fine. It only needs some fine tuning. The bike feels very good and stiff. I have to say that I do not really have a comparison. Only my aluminum gravelbike (Trek Checkpoint). I'll also post my impressions after a few longer rides.

I think the frame fits me pretty well with size 54. I'm 175cm with inseem of 82. But after only 10km I don't know exactly.

My personal Pros and Cons so far:
+ Good frame  and parts quality. No bigger problems yet.
+ The build was good with some smaller problems.

- front derailleur hanger not so good for mechanical Shimano due to the missing support for the stabilizer screw.
- paint quality is okay (small imperfections here and there) but the clear coat is very thin so that I already have some smaller scratches. I think the paintjob should be clear coated at least 2 times.

As already mentioned by other people the carbon in some areas (downtube, toptube) Is very thin. You can easily flex it with your thumb. I don't know if that is normal for that kind of frames. I just want to say it.

All in all I'm very happy how it turned out and looking forward to the next rides. The whole build was about 2500 Euro. For that price I can't buy a branded Frame with carbon wheels and group set.

[rasch]

Thats one of the quickest mountings I've seen ahaha.

Looking good. Hope you enjoy ur rides.

Indeed thinness seems to be a potential problem there. Let's see how they hold up.

As regards the pricing I think u can manage to find builds like that on canyon for example and adding some cheap carbon wheels. Most likely weight would be a bit heavier but not that much.

In any case I believe it's all in the experience and learning rather than on the price