Author Topic: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame  (Read 97868 times)

Miodu

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #540 on: November 23, 2024, 06:51:28 AM »
Does anybody know the frame height on rear caliper mount? Need to order shimano bolt C.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2024, 09:37:20 AM by Miodu »

hazzer19

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #541 on: November 23, 2024, 11:38:13 AM »
Thanks for answering. However, I wonder why do I need to loose the VBs cover and spacers, is the shape of the handlebar stem the reason? Would it be possible to just swap the bars?


Yah I think it's because the VB spacers/cover are meant to match the shape of the bars. There is a chance you may be able to make it work by filling away the pins in the spacers that are meant to line up with the small holes in the bars but not sure if the spacers would then stay in place with the stem/bars after.

hazzer19

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #542 on: November 24, 2024, 11:52:13 AM »
Does anybody know the frame height on rear caliper mount? Need to order shimano bolt C.

Just meassuredmine at ~3cm

Miodu

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #543 on: November 24, 2024, 12:40:44 PM »
Just meassuredmine at ~3cm
Thanks, so need to buy 43mm bolt  ;D

Tilmanstoa5ty

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #544 on: November 27, 2024, 05:20:21 AM »
My frame arrived yesterday. Here's a pic of the build in progress. The paint job is pretty good with some minor imperfections but for 50€ can't really complain. The white headtube cover doesn't sit perfectly there's a little gap on the right side and none on the left gotta check that out. But i will redo the cockpit installation anyway when i figured out my fit. The huge spacer tower is just there to give me room to figure out my fit. I will definitely remove some spacers and recut the fork.
There is some paint in the bottom bracket area and some paint on the brake caliper mounting area. Hopefully the brakes won't be too hard to align. I will also postpone brake installation until i have the perfect cockpit height figured out, so i don't cut the hoses to the wrong length. Won't need brakes on the trainer anyway. Currently i'm waiting for a second bottom bracket tool. I got one of those screw together bottom brackets and i can't install it with only grabbing it on one side (who would have thought...).

The build will be:

Velobuild VB-R-268 frame
Elitewheels ENT 2.0 38mm
105 Di2
Magene PES P505

Can't wait to install the bottom bracket and cranks to take it for a first spin on the trainer.

Oh and for those who are interested in ordering and wondering how long it would take:

Ordered on october 30th
Shipped on november 14th
Delivered on november 26th (to germany using the xdb tax free shipping option)
« Last Edit: November 27, 2024, 05:34:20 AM by Tilmanstoa5ty »

volan

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #545 on: November 27, 2024, 08:00:17 AM »
...

Ordered on october 30th
Shipped on november 14th
Delivered on november 26th (to germany using the xdb tax free shipping option)

My God why did I order icebreak color option... I believe it was the cause for the delay of mine order. Ordered on Oct 26th, shipped only last week, and today should be on it's way to Croatia.

Regarding your bb tool issue, yea I was thinking about it so I ordered another tool from ali on time :) ... But I think I will drop inside the shimano pressfit BB that came with the groupset. I kinda don't like having aluminium on carbon in pressfit option. Still not sure.

Anyways, build is looking really good. Keep us updated!

Tilmanstoa5ty

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #546 on: November 27, 2024, 10:00:09 AM »
I didn't want to buy a pressfit tool and thought this might be a good alternative. As far as i see it there's no aluminium touching the carbon with this setup.

I will post the full build once it's all setup. This is my first bike build ever but so far it's going quite smooth.

Btw. does anybody have a good alternative to the seatpost rubber cover that came with the frame. I really don't like how it overlaps the back of the frame.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2024, 10:01:40 AM by Tilmanstoa5ty »

hazzer19

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #547 on: November 27, 2024, 10:11:34 AM »
My God why did I order icebreak color option...


may be worth it in the end, the ice break effect looks really good in person!

volan

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #548 on: November 27, 2024, 10:36:12 AM »
I didn't want to buy a pressfit tool and thought this might be a good alternative. As far as i see it there's no aluminium touching the carbon with this setup.

I will post the full build once it's all setup. This is my first bike build ever but so far it's going quite smooth.

Btw. does anybody have a good alternative to the seatpost rubber cover that came with the frame. I really don't like how it overlaps the back of the frame.

Yea someone in here posted a pic with, I believe, SL7 cover from ali. But having seen the VB's cover, I wonder how come noone tried to cut that rear part?

With regards to aluminum - carbon. I thought your bb is the aluminum one, or am I wrong?

Tilmanstoa5ty

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #549 on: November 27, 2024, 11:37:23 AM »
Yea someone in here posted a pic with, I believe, SL7 cover from ali. But having seen the VB's cover, I wonder how come noone tried to cut that rear part?

With regards to aluminum - carbon. I thought your bb is the aluminum one, or am I wrong?

Cutting it would be my first step but since these things are probably pretty cheap i will just go for an alternative if i fuck it up.

I have the bottom bracket from the attached pic and there are two rubber o-rings on the area that touches the frame to protect it.

volan

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #550 on: November 27, 2024, 12:19:30 PM »
Oh we have the same bb. I also ordered ztto like that. But since my last ztto bb (bsa) on my mtb didn't last that long really, I'm inclined to using good ol' shimano plastic one. I really am not sure yet. Will decide on the spot I think.

Tell me, how do you find the bb shell quality, tolerances etc...? I haven't worked with pressfit shells, only bsa. Seems pf bb's have higher tendency for creak development. Also, did you use any grease?

Tilmanstoa5ty

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #551 on: November 27, 2024, 12:47:59 PM »
Oh we have the same bb. I also ordered ztto like that. But since my last ztto bb (bsa) on my mtb didn't last that long really, I'm inclined to using good ol' shimano plastic one. I really am not sure yet. Will decide on the spot I think.

Tell me, how do you find the bb shell quality, tolerances etc...? I haven't worked with pressfit shells, only bsa. Seems pf bb's have higher tendency for creak development. Also, did you use any grease?

Since this is my first bike build i can't really tell you much about the bottom bracket as i lack experience to compare it. I did some research about grease and there seem to be multiple opinions. Some people (for example hambini) recommend using some loctite (not the one used for screws) others use normal grease. I'll be using this silicone stuff recommended by some people on bikewrench reddit. Will see how the bb will hold up and if it will develop any creaks.

hazzer19

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #552 on: November 28, 2024, 11:07:01 AM »
Cutting it would be my first step but since these things are probably pretty cheap i will just go for an alternative if i fuck it up.

I have the bottom bracket from the attached pic and there are two rubber o-rings on the area that touches the frame to protect it.


I've been using the same BB from ZTTO as well and really like the screw in aspect. They are fairly delicate, in that if you don't use the correct tool and instead use a clamp wrench for example like I did once because I didn't have two BB wrenches, one for each side, you can crush it pretty easily and the bearings won't turn anymore.


Been using regular grease myself when installing and seems fine.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2024, 11:27:25 AM by hazzer19 »

volan

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #553 on: November 28, 2024, 12:08:01 PM »

I've been using the same BB from ZTTO as well and really like the screw in aspect. They are fairly delicate, in that if you don't use the correct tool and instead use a clamp wrench for example like I did once because I didn't have two BB wrenches, one for each side, you can crush it pretty easily and the bearings won't turn anymore.


Been using regular grease myself when installing and seems fine.

Thanks for the input! I will take it into consideration when I go for the bb install. How do you find the bearing durabillity? Or simply, how long is your installed, and how many km's is on it?

I'm kind of sucker for shimano I admit, but it's because, really, all of their stuff I found durable AF. I mean, their cheapest bb i have now on my indoor trainer bike, is like, 4 years old, and still spins without noise and any noticable friction. My first spd pedals are, well, unbreakable. So many rock hits and crashes.. That damn thing doesn't give 2 f?cks about it. So that's the only reason I'm inclined on pressing the plastic Shimano bb into this build.

Tilmanstoa5ty

Re: VeloBuild VB-R-268 frame
« Reply #554 on: November 28, 2024, 01:25:04 PM »
I would highly recommend to get some sort of "cup style" (first attachment) bottom bracket tool to install the screw in bottom bracket. I got myself two of these cheap ones (second attachment) and it's really hard to get a good grip on the thin area of the bottom bracket. I think these tools are better suited for bsa bottom brackets with a much larger area to grip.

@volan: If you already have the tool and the bottom bracket i think there's nothing wrong with the shimano bb. The sole reason for me to go with the screw together was the lack of a pressfit tool.