Xiamen Carbon Speed 10 years anniversary special promotion

[wintermute]

So I have gotten two offers from Peter:

1275g - 58mm rare and 50front
D50CU-28 T1100 rims 24/24H UD paintless, in-house hubs 36T rachets enduro steel bearings center lock straight pull for 100*12/142*12 with Shimano HG driver, Pillar 1420 spokes, Pillar aluminum nipples

1221g and 58rare and 50front:
D50CU-28 T1100 rims 21/21H UD paintless, In-house black or titanium color hubs 21/21H side entry hubs for carbon spokes 54T rachets TPI ceramic bearings center lock straight pull for 100*12/142*12 with Shimano HG driver, carbon spokes with nipples

Any changes I should consider and is it worth going Carbon spokes vs Pillar 1420 spokes?

I can't work out how the maths works out there.

Carbon spokes are c.2.6g and pillar aero are c.4.5g.

With 20h vs 24h there should be at least 90-100g difference?

[Chriasp]

I can't work out how the maths works out there.

Carbon spokes are c.2.6g and pillar aero are c.4.5g.

With 20h vs 24h there should be at least 90-100g difference?

I don’t know tbh. But I think I have found out it’s not even worth going carbon spokes. Easier to maintain the alu spokes I guess

[toxin]

Because the 21 carbon spoke hubs are heavy as shit

[KaiDeus]

Apparently light enough to have a sub 1200g wheelset

[PeterXu]

Because the 21 carbon spoke hubs are heavy as shit

Really? Haha, 325g/pair on our 21/21H hubs, but still much lighter than DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes, we don't use original DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes, actually DT Swiss decided to make those hubs to supply to STREN who makes VONOA carbon spokes for many big brands, but firstly DT Swiss was too uncompromising on the price, secondly some brands don't want to use DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes as well, so I believe you won't see current DT Swiss hubs for carbon spokes much longer.

Anyway, stable quality are most important, as I said when we released our 20/20H hubs for carbon spokes, we don't make them extremely light as some other companies do due to much higher spoke tension on carbon spokes. @Toxin, Have you seen anyone complaining about our 21/21H hubs except side entry so far? Maybe you are picky on weight of any part of bikes, but please don't say bad words on anything you haven't tried personally.

[Lotnik]

Anyway hubs are in the center of rotation so they not much affect on rotation mass. 50 grams +/- on the hub doesn't effect anything beside the complete weight of the wheelset.

[PeterXu]

Anyway hubs are in the center of rotation so they not much affect on rotation mass. 50 grams +/- on the hub doesn't effect anything beside the complete weight of the wheelset.

If the material used for hub body is not so good, it might cause tension deformation on the sopke holes hub side because of high tension on carbon spokes, and even the breadth deformation in center of the hub body, carbon spokes might not be reused when you get quality problem on the hubs, that is why we don't suggest too light hubs used for carbon spokes if they are cheap as ours. Unless you use very good material to make the hub bodies meanwhile make them extremely light and stable quality, but they would be much more expensive though.

[Uberflo]

My wheelset from Peter ist ready 2 ship: https://imgur.com/a/gE4y7BS

[patliean1]

My wheelset from Peter ist ready 2 ship: https://imgur.com/a/gE4y7BS

Sheeeesh! 1315g for a set of 65mm deep is wild.

[Vaclav]

My wheelset from Peter ist ready 2 ship: https://imgur.com/a/gE4y7BS

I have the exact same setup. Also ready to send. Mine have 15g more